Starting with the definition of the Dirac delta function,

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The discussion revolves around the Dirac delta function, specifically exploring the expression \(\delta(\sqrt{x})\). Participants are attempting to understand how to manipulate this expression starting from the definition of the Dirac delta function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning how to apply the definition of the Dirac delta function to the expression \(\delta(\sqrt{x})\) and whether certain substitutions are valid. There is an exploration of the integral properties of the delta function and its behavior under transformations.

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Some participants are providing insights into the definition of the Dirac delta function and its integral properties. Others express confusion regarding the implications of their substitutions and the overall goal of the problem, indicating a lack of consensus on the approach to take.

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There is mention of the need for clarity on the composition of distributions and functions, as well as the potential for misunderstanding in the manipulation of the delta function with respect to its argument. Participants are also reflecting on the limitations of their current understanding and the resources available for deeper exploration.

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Starting with the definition of the Dirac delta function, show that [itex]\delta( \sqrt{x})[/itex]um... i have looked in my book and looked online for a problem like this and i really have no clue where to start. the only time i have used the dirac delta function is in an integral with another function and never with it in this form, only like delta(x-a).looking for guidance.
 
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Homework Statement



Starting with the definition of the Dirac delta function, show that [itex]\delta( \sqrt{x})[/itex]

Show that [itex]\delta( \sqrt{x})[/itex] is what?
 
sorry about that.

equal to 0
 
How is the Dirac delta function defined? The problem asks you to start with this definition.
 
from what i get out of the text. it is what replaces an inner product that vanishes if x doesn't equal x'.

I also know that it's integral is unity.
 
[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}dx\,f(x)\delta(x)=f(0)[/tex]

Now, if only the argument of the delta function was [itex]\sqrt{z}[/itex] instead of [itex]x[/itex] ... hmmm, how could we make this happen?
 
let x= [itex]\sqrt{z}[/itex] then dx=(1/2)z^(-1/2)dz

and we get [itex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}dz z^{-1/2} f(z^{-1/2})\delta(z^{-1/2})[/itex]
 
is this a valid assumption

treat [itex]\delta(\sqrt{x})[/itex] as [itex]\delta(\sqrt{x}-0)[/itex]
 
Aside: I know the hand-wavy argument is clear, but does anyone know of a source that actually defines the result of composing a distribution with a function of some sort?
 
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so assuming i made the substitution right and that was what i was supposed to do, i still don't see how i proved that it equals zero.

is that supposed to say if i plug in zero for x i get zero?

and even if i treat [itex] \delta(\sqrt{x}) [/itex] as [itex] \delta(\sqrt{x}-0) [/itex]
i still don't have a function to plug zero into.

i am still quite confused about what i am trying to do.
 
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Hurkyl said:
Aside: I know the hand-wavy argument is clear, but does anyone know of a source that actually defines the result of composing a distribution with a function of some sort?

Section 7.4.d Composition of [itex]\delta[/itex] with a function, from Mathematics for Physics and Physicists by Walter Appel.

The idea, as usual, is to to use the distribution obtained by integrating a locally integrable function against test functions to motivate a more general definition.

1. Use locally integrable [itex]g[/itex] and integration to generate a distribution [itex]G[/itex].

2. Use locally integrable [itex]g \circ f[/itex] and integration to generate a distribution denoted by [itex]G \circ f[/itex].

3. If [itex]x[/itex] is the integration variable in 2., make the substitution [itex]y = f(x)[/itex].

4. Relate [itex]G \circ f[/itex] to [itex]G[/itex].

5. Use 4. to motivate the definition of [itex]T \circ f[/itex] in tems of an arbitrary distribution [itex]T[/itex] and differentiable and bijective function [itex]f[/itex].

If I get time tomorrow, I might type in the details.
 
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