State the angles in terms of x , Circle theorems

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The discussion revolves around determining the angles in a cyclic quadrilateral formed by points on a circle, specifically focusing on the angles $\angle CAB$ and $\angle CBA$ in terms of a given angle $\angle CDB = x^\circ$. The context includes the application of circle theorems and properties of cyclic quadrilaterals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that since quadrilateral $ABDC$ is cyclic, the relationship $x^{\circ} + \angle{CAB} = 180^{\circ}$ holds.
  • It is stated that $\angle{ACB} = 90^{\circ}$ due to Thales' theorem.
  • Some participants propose using the sum of the interior angles of triangle $CBA$, leading to the equation $\angle{CBA} + \angle{CAB} + \angle{ACB} = 180^{\circ}$.
  • One participant derives $\angle CAB = 180 - x$ and questions if $\angle CBA$ can be expressed as $\angle CBA = 180 - x$.
  • Another participant substitutes the known angles into the triangle angle sum equation, arriving at $\angle{CBA} = x^{\circ} - 90^{\circ}$ and seeks confirmation on this result.
  • Several participants confirm agreement with the derived expressions for the angles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationships derived from the cyclic nature of the quadrilateral and the application of Thales' theorem, but there is no explicit consensus on the final expressions for the angles without further verification.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the configuration of points and the definitions of angles are implicit in the discussion. The derivations depend on the cyclic properties and the application of triangle angle sum rules, which may not be fully detailed in every step.

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O is the center of the circle and AB is the diameter of this circle , C & D are points on this circle , If $\angle CDB=x^\circ$ ,State the following angles in terms of $x$

$\angle CAB$

$\angle CBA$

Workings & what is known

$OC=OB=OA$ radii of the same circle

$\therefore \angle {CBO} = \angle {OCB} = \angle {OAC} = \angle {OCA}$

$ACB=90^\circ$ Thales theorem

As $\angle BCO = \angle ACO $ it can be said that $\angle ACB$ is bisected

Many Thanks :)
 

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We are given that the quadrilateral $ABDC$ is cyclic, therefore:

$$x^{\circ}+\angle{CAB}=180^{\circ}$$

You are correct that $\angle{ACB}=90^{\circ}$

And so use:

$$\angle{CBA}+\angle{CAB}+\angle{ACB}=180^{\circ}$$
 
MarkFL said:
We are given that the quadrilateral $ABDC$ is cyclic, therefore:

$$x^{\circ}+\angle{CAB}=180^{\circ}$$

You are correct that $\angle{ACB}=90^{\circ}$

And so use:

$$\angle{CBA}+\angle{CAB}+\angle{ACB}=180^{\circ}$$

Thanks :)

$\angle CAB+x=180$
$\angle CAB =180-x $

That's for $\angle CAB$ , Now For $\angle CBA$ as I think it is equal to $\angle CAO$ as in the figure $\angle CBA= 180-x$

Correct?

Many Thanks :)
 
Using the sum of the interior angles of a triangle, I wrote:

$$\angle{CBA}+\angle{CAB}+\angle{ACB}=180^{\circ}$$

Now substitute:

$$\angle{CBA}+\left(180-x\right)^{\circ}+90^{\circ}=180^{\circ}$$

What do you get?
 
MarkFL said:
Using the sum of the interior angles of a triangle, I wrote:

$$\angle{CBA}+\angle{CAB}+\angle{ACB}=180^{\circ}$$

Now substitute:

$$\angle{CBA}+\left(180-x\right)^{\circ}+90^{\circ}=180^{\circ}$$

What do you get?

Thanks :D , I get by substituting,

$\displaystyle \angle{CBA}+\left(180-x\right)^{\circ}+90^{\circ}=180^{\circ}$

$\displaystyle \angle{CBA}=x^{\circ} -90^{\circ}$

Correct ? :)

Many Thanks :)
 
Yes, that's what I got as well. (Yes)
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, that's what I got as well. (Yes)

Thank you very much MarkFL (Happy) (Smile) (Party)
 

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