Static Friction of box on a ramp

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a 100kg box placed on a ramp, which begins to slide down when the ramp's angle of inclination reaches 15 degrees. The objective is to determine the coefficient of static friction between the box and the ramp.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply equations related to forces acting on the box but expresses uncertainty about the correct approach and starting point. Some participants suggest examining the relationship between gravitational forces and static friction at the critical angle. Others question the understanding of static friction and its maximum value.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between friction and normal force, as well as the use of trigonometric functions to analyze the forces acting on the box.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with the given angle of inclination and are questioning the assumptions related to the maximum value of static friction and the components of gravitational force acting on the box.

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Homework Statement


A 100kg box is placed on a ramp. As part of the ramp is raised, the box begins to move downward just as the angle of inclination reaches 15 degrees. What is the coefficient of static friction between the box and the ramp?


Homework Equations


Fn = mg-Fsin15


The Attempt at a Solution


Fcos15 = Mk(mg-Fsin15)
F(cos15+sin15) = Mkmg
F=Mkmg/cos15+Mksin15
= 0.2(100kg)(9.8)\cos15+0.2sin15
I continued to solve this problem, however the answer that I got was not one of my answer choices. I believe that I used the wrong equation; but even with the right equation, I never know where to start. Can anybody help me?
 
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Hint: At the point where the box just barely begins to slide, the force acting down the ramp (the component of gravity) is just overcoming the static friction.

What's the component of gravity down the ramp?
What's the maximum value of static friction?

These both depend on the angle. Set up an equation and [STRIKE]solve for the angle[/STRIKE]. Edit: You are given the angle; I meant set up an equation and solve for the coefficient of friction.
 
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would the maximum value of static friction be zero?
How would I find the component of gravity with the information given?
 
elbonymcbride said:
would the maximum value of static friction be zero?
No. Hint: How does friction force relate to the normal force? How does the normal force depend on the angle?
How would I find the component of gravity with the information given?
You are given the angle of the ramp. Use a bit of trig to find the component parallel to the ramp.
 

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