How Is Static Friction Affecting the Boy and the Crate's Movement?

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The discussion centers on the physics of static friction affecting a boy's ability to push a crate. The boy's mass is confirmed at 51.0 kg, with static and kinetic coefficients of friction for his shoes being 0.900 and 0.4, respectively, while the crate has coefficients of 0.5 and 0.2. The forces acting on both the boy and the crate are analyzed using Newton's laws, leading to the conclusion that the boy's calculations were correct but obscured by sloppy notation. The key takeaway is the relationship between the forces exerted by the boy and the crate, which are equal in magnitude.

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You see the boy next door trying to push a crate down the sidewalk. He can barely keep it moving, and his feet occasionally slip. You start to wonder how heavy the crate is. You call to ask the boy his mass, and he replies " 51.0 kg." From your recent physics class you estimate that the static and kinetic coefficients of friction are 0.900 and 0.4 for the boy's shoes, and 0.5 and 0.2 for the crate.

what is the mass of the crate?

<<Forces acting on the boy>>

X= F(static friction)-F(box on boy)=ma=0 F(static f)=F(boy on box)

y= Fg=Fn

<<Forces acting on box>>

X= F(boy on box)- F(kinetic friction)=ma=0 F(boy on b)= F(kinetic friction)

y: Fn=Fg

and the F(boy on b)= -F(box on boy)= F


i can't understand why this isn't working if i plug in all my numbers and manipulate the equations.
 
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marissa12 said:
<<Forces acting on the boy>>

X= F(static friction)-F(box on boy)=ma=0 F(static f)=F(boy on box)
Good. (I assume you meant F(box on boy).)
<<Forces acting on box>>

X= F(boy on box)- F(kinetic friction)=ma=0 F(boy on b)= F(kinetic friction)
Good.

and the F(boy on b)= -F(box on boy)= F
Good. In your earlier equations F(boy on box) & F(box on boy) represent the magnitudes of those forces, so F(boy on box) = F(box on boy).

Now put it all together: If F = A and F = B, then A = B. (That's a hint.)
 
hah yay.. i had it right the whole time.. its just i wrote my work soo sloppy i messed up the numbers. thank you !
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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