Stationary Points and finding variables?

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The discussion centers on finding the coefficients a, b, and c of the quadratic equation y=ax^2 + bx+c, given that there is a stationary point at (1,2) and the slope at x=0 is 45 degrees. Two key equations derived from the conditions are a+b+c=2 and 2a+b=0, with the slope condition leading to b=1. The solution process involves using the derivative to establish relationships between the variables, ultimately confirming the values of a, b, and c. The participants emphasize the importance of explaining problems to facilitate understanding and problem-solving. The discussion concludes with a complete solution provided by a veteran member.
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Stationary Points and finding variables? :)

Homework Statement


The curve with the equation y=ax^2 + bx+c has a stationary point at (1,2). When x=0, the slope of the curve is 45 degrees. Find a, b, c.


Homework Equations


I'm not sure how to create an equation that involves the 45 degrees


The Attempt at a Solution


There are three equations to solve for the three variables, but so far I only have 2 equations:

2= a+b+c
and
2a+b=2

DW, SOLVED IT! :)
 
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Well done!

Sometimes explaining the problem to someone else will lead to a solution :)
Want to share how you did it?
 


the derivative of a function is its gradient, which is also defined as rise/run. In trig, rise/run = tanθ!

therefore tan45°=1

And then just use one of the aforementioned methods of substitution into y'.

:)
 


Yes. The fact that the function has a stationary point at (1, 2) tells you two things:
First that the value of the function at x= 1 is 2: a(1)^2+ b(1)+ c= a+ b+ c= 2.
Second that the derivative there is 0: 2a(1)+ b= 2a+ b= 0.

The fact that the tangent line, at x= 0, is at 45 degrees to the x-axis tells you that the slope of the tangent line there is tan(45)= 1: 2a(0)+ b= 1.

Your three equations are b= 1, 2a+ b= 0 so 2a+ 1= 0, and a+ b+ c= 2 so a+ c+ 1= 2.
 


Outstanding Dramacon: I figured I'd give you the glory of explaining it :) There is a chance someone else will google to your problem when they are looking for a solution to theirs. Now you've just helped them.

HallsofIvy, is a veteran, and has included the complete solution.

I prefer the "rise over run" version since it uses what "slope" means in relation to the gradient ... though the trig is a useful addition so this is totally not a criticism. The tangent of an angle is also rise over run - of course.
 
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