Stationary Points and finding variables?

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the variables a, b, and c for a curve with the equation y=ax^2 + bx+c that has a stationary point at (1,2) and a slope of 45 degrees at x=0. The solution involves using the fact that the function has a stationary point at (1,2) and the tangent line at x=0 is at 45 degrees to the x-axis to create three equations and solve for the variables a, b, and c. The final solution is a=-1, b=1, and c=2.
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Stationary Points and finding variables? :)

Homework Statement


The curve with the equation y=ax^2 + bx+c has a stationary point at (1,2). When x=0, the slope of the curve is 45 degrees. Find a, b, c.


Homework Equations


I'm not sure how to create an equation that involves the 45 degrees


The Attempt at a Solution


There are three equations to solve for the three variables, but so far I only have 2 equations:

2= a+b+c
and
2a+b=2

DW, SOLVED IT! :)
 
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Well done!

Sometimes explaining the problem to someone else will lead to a solution :)
Want to share how you did it?
 
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the derivative of a function is its gradient, which is also defined as rise/run. In trig, rise/run = tanθ!

therefore tan45°=1

And then just use one of the aforementioned methods of substitution into y'.

:)
 
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Yes. The fact that the function has a stationary point at (1, 2) tells you two things:
First that the value of the function at x= 1 is 2: [itex]a(1)^2+ b(1)+ c= a+ b+ c= 2[/itex].
Second that the derivative there is 0: 2a(1)+ b= 2a+ b= 0.

The fact that the tangent line, at x= 0, is at 45 degrees to the x-axis tells you that the slope of the tangent line there is tan(45)= 1: 2a(0)+ b= 1.

Your three equations are b= 1, 2a+ b= 0 so 2a+ 1= 0, and a+ b+ c= 2 so a+ c+ 1= 2.
 
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Outstanding Dramacon: I figured I'd give you the glory of explaining it :) There is a chance someone else will google to your problem when they are looking for a solution to theirs. Now you've just helped them.

HallsofIvy, is a veteran, and has included the complete solution.

I prefer the "rise over run" version since it uses what "slope" means in relation to the gradient ... though the trig is a useful addition so this is totally not a criticism. The tangent of an angle is also rise over run - of course.
 

1. What is a stationary point?

A stationary point is a point on a graph where the slope of the curve is zero. This means that the function is neither increasing nor decreasing at that point. It is also known as a critical point.

2. How do you find stationary points?

To find stationary points, you need to take the derivative of the function and set it equal to zero. Then, you can solve for the variable to find the x-value of the stationary point. You can also use the second derivative test to determine if the point is a maximum, minimum, or neither.

3. What is the significance of stationary points?

Stationary points are important because they can help us identify maximum and minimum values of a function. In real-world applications, they can represent points of equilibrium or optimal solutions.

4. Can a function have more than one stationary point?

Yes, a function can have multiple stationary points. This occurs when the derivative of the function is equal to zero at different x-values. Each stationary point can represent a different maximum or minimum value.

5. How do you determine if a stationary point is a maximum or minimum?

You can determine if a stationary point is a maximum or minimum by using the second derivative test. If the second derivative is positive at the stationary point, it is a minimum. If the second derivative is negative, it is a maximum. If the second derivative is zero, the test is inconclusive and you may need to use other methods to determine the nature of the stationary point.

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