Statistician analyzes paranormal predictions

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The discussion centers on a research program involving remote viewing, where subjects attempted to describe or draw unknown targets. A meta-analysis by Utts indicated that subjects correctly identified targets 34 percent of the time, with an extremely low probability of these results occurring by chance. Participants expressed skepticism about the methods used, questioning the validity of identifying an "unknown object" and suggesting that targets might be biased towards those more easily guessed. Personal anecdotes were shared, including experiences of individuals claiming to have remote viewing abilities, with mixed results and interpretations. Some participants speculated that any perceived paranormal abilities could stem from heightened sensory awareness rather than supernatural phenomena. Overall, there is a critical view of the statistical interpretations and a desire for more detailed methodological information in studies related to paranormal predictions.
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... The research program involved remote viewing, in which test subjects were asked to describe or draw an unknown target. The target could be anything and could be located anywhere. According to Utts' meta-analysis of the 966 studies performed at Stanford Research Institute, subjects could identify the target correctly 34 percent of the time. The probability of these results occurring by chance is .000000000043. [continued]
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Interesting stuff, but I wish the article would give more info on methods. An 'unknown object' could be anything. If the object was an obvious choice for the people conducting the investigation, perhaps it was something the subjects were more likely to guess. Perhaps guessing a number generated by a random number generator would be easier to investigate.A personal anecdote though- I had a friend in high school who claimed some kind of remote viewing powers, so we tested him. Another friend drew the BMW logo and hid it from him. I'm pretty sure he never saw it. Within a couple of minutes the guy had managed to draw the shape of it and he said that he knew there were letters but couldn't tell what they were. I was impressed. He was talking about it as he went though, so I don't rule out him reading our reactions about his guesses and piecing it together that way.
 
Ay, I loathe describing this one personal experience. I mean, after my UFO sighting and living in a haunted house, I might as well just toss my credibility into the pond. But what the hey...

Back when I was I think an eighth grader, I was at the elementary school for the ten/fifteen minute wait for my transfer bus home. I had some current interest in ESP, and maybe that's what prompted me to do this. I walked around in a wooded area where the kids played during their recesses, but with my eyes closed and looking straight ahead. Which was a bit risky since tree roots were rampant. At some point I stopped, looked down, and picked up what looked like a rock. It was in the ground a bit, but once I dug it out I saw that it was a Cub Scout neckerchief slide. I took it into a teacher and returned to the wooded area, hoping to pull it off again, maybe finding some lunch money. Three more times in a row, without fail, I stopped just in front of yet more slides. Now, that in itself was strange. And looking at them each I didn't know what they were until I cleaned off the mud. After sharing this with the teacher, my enthusiasm waned when she seemed unimpressed. Come to think of it in retrospect, maybe she thought I was pulling her leg.

On the other hand, if someone had a box full of slides that somehow got tossed out there, well it's not so strange then in that case.

I've since tried to duplicate similar results, but to no avail. Personally, I'm not convinced that there's anything paranormal about it. If it's real, I'd describe it as a kind of peripheral sense, maybe something that developed on the side when we were ancient hunters or gatherers. Maybe like a coalescence of our senses. Perhaps any perceived rewards has an influence. In any case, I don't see much use for it unless we can fully develop it. And I'm very pessimistic about that for I think obvious reasons.
 
And I quote "I don't know! A couple of squiggly lines?!"

So they averaged the studies and about 30% of the time these people could guess an object at random, any object? Seems like either there is something crazy, or the press is misinterpreting the statistics.

PS. I also hate statistical articles that list no relevant information.
 

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