News Staying at the Hilton vs Going to Jail

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The discussion centers around Paris Hilton's recent legal troubles, including her probation violation and subsequent jail time, which many participants view as a reflection of her privileged status. Comments highlight the disparity in how wealthy individuals are treated within the legal system, with some arguing that Hilton's celebrity status allowed her to receive leniency, such as being released to house arrest after serving only three days of a 45-day sentence. Participants express mixed feelings about her fame, questioning why she garners so much attention compared to others and whether her lifestyle promotes unhealthy ideals. Some defend her, arguing that she works hard and has produced successful television content, while others criticize her as a "spoiled" individual who has not taken full responsibility for her actions. The conversation also touches on societal standards for celebrities, the nature of public judgment, and the broader implications of wealth and privilege in America.

What should be done about Paris Hilton?

  • Throw the book at her! Give her the maximum sentence!

    Votes: 43 93.5%

  • Let her off the hook. She's too pretty for a place like jail.

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Total voters
    46
  • #51
Evo said:
:smile:

You're yanking our chains, aren't you. :biggrin:

Nope. And the sausage-making episode was a classic. They've done things I would swiftly cringe at.
 
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  • #52
Mallignamius said:
Nope. And the sausage-making episode was a classic. They've done things I would swiftly cringe at.
And they did it because they wanted to, not because it meant millions to them. Riiiiight.
 
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  • #53
I would, Evo. :smile:

For her, a billionaire, I'd think it'd have more to do with publicity at the most. If I were really cynical, I could suggest that she was building up a fan base to support her for the eventual legal problems of a wild life.

*buries head back in math book*
 
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  • #54
I really don't care who she is. She was driving drunk. Then she was driving with a suspended license while on probabation for her previous crime. She obviously has no respect for the law and this suggests that she isn't concerned with any consequences that may apply to her. She should serve the sentence that everyone else would serve. The only exception that I can see is that she might need to be treated as a prisoner with special needs. It might not be safe for her in the general population.

But really, what kind of medical condition does she have that would prevent her from being in jail? Does she have a methodone clinic in her house? From what I've read she had "medical personnel" recommend that she be removed from jail based on her condition. She refused to eat the food served to her in jail. Was this because she is too spolied to eat jail food or just can't keep it down without her 'medication?' My guess would be heroin, meth, cocaine, or some combination of any of them. Nervous breakdown... I bet.

Could there be any other medical reason that spending time in a cell would be hazardous to someone's health?
 
  • #55
She apparently was segregated from the rest of the population and only had interaction with the staff/authorities.

Why should she not suffer the consequences of her actions when others must?
 
  • #56
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PARIS_HILTON?SITE=ORLAG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

She was sent back to jail.

Paris Hilton was taken from a courtroom screaming and crying Friday seconds after a judge ordered her returned to jail to serve out her entire 45-day sentence for a parole violation in a reckless driving case.
 
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  • #57
hahah , how can i say this , PWNED !

Btw , how is it that a sheriff can make the decision to let her off?
 
  • #58
Can you smell that? Smells like justice.

Paris has never looked so good.
 
  • #59
Astronuc said:
She apparently was segregated from the rest of the population and only had interaction with the staff/authorities.

Why should she not suffer the consequences of her actions when others must?
The only medical condition I've heard she suffers from is nymphomania, perhaps the frustration of being segregated is killing her :biggrin:
 
  • #60
There are people in jail with very serious medical conditions, and they manage to serve out their sentences under the care of the medical staffs at those jails. It is difficult to see how she might have something that can only be treated in a mansion and not in jail.
 
  • #61
After Brief Respite, Paris Hilton Goes Back to Jail
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10876299
by Carrie Kahn
All Things Considered, June 8, 2007 · Socialite Paris Hilton was ordered back to a jail in Lynwood, Calif., by a judge who ruled that her 45-day sentence must be served in the Los Angeles County facility — not in her Hollywood home. Hilton had been sent home with a tracking device Thursday, in a move officials said was due to medical reasons.

AP News Wire: Latest Headlines
Hilton Sent Back to Jail in Hysterics
from The Associated Press
LOS ANGELES June 8, 2007, 8:05 p.m. ET · Paris Hilton was sent screaming and crying back to jail Friday after a judge ruled that she must serve out her sentence behind bars rather than in the comfort of her Hollywood Hills home.

"It's not right!" shouted Hilton, who violated her probation in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she cried out to her mother.

Hours earlier, the 26-year-old hotel heiress was taken handcuffed from her home in a black-and-white police car, paparazzi sprinting in pursuit and helicopters broadcasting live from above.

. . .
Hopefully she will learn something from this.
 
  • #62
Paris back in prison :
"it sucks to the highest degree"



:smile:

marlon
 
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  • #63
marlon said:
Paris back in prison : "it sucks to the highest degree"



from
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070609/ap_on_en_tv/paris_hilton

Sauer (judge who sentenced Hilton) gave no explanation of his ruling to return Hilton back to jail, but his comments throughout the hearing indicated he was affronted by Baca's decision to set aside his instructions and release the celebutante to her Hollywood Hills home.
. . . .
Hilton's lawyers said the reason for her release was an unspecified medical condition. The judge suggested that could be taken care of at jail medical facilities.

Following the hearing, Baca said he decided to put Hilton under house arrest because he was concerned about a serious medical condition he could not disclose, though his further comments suggested psychological problems.

He said he had learned from one of her doctors that she was not taking a certain medication while she was in custody previously and her "inexplicable deterioration" puzzled county psychiatrists.
Somehow the system neglected her medical treatment! She is under psychiatric care and stopping medication could cause deterioration in one's mental state.

A lot of people who go to jail have psychological problems, and perhaps some or much of that is the result of drug and/or alcohol abuse. How does society (the community) help someone like that?
Baca charged that Hilton received a more severe sentence than normal, which he said would have been either no time in jail or being directly placed in home confinement with electronic monitoring.

"The only thing I can detect as special treatment is the amount of her sentence," the sheriff said.
. . . .
How to make the system more fair or consistent? My wife counseled drunk drivers who had 'repeated' convictions, but served little jail time. They'd get into a treatment program, as opposed to jail, but then they'd re-offend.

Despite being reincarcerated, she could still be released early. Inmates are given a day off their terms for every four days of good behavior, and her days in home detention counted as custody days. It appeared that Friday would count as her sixth day. Baca indicated she would serve about 18 more days.
And that is available to anyone.

Hilton's path to jail began Sept. 7, when she failed a sobriety test after police saw her weaving down a street in her Mercedes-Benz on what she said was a late-night run to a hamburger stand.

She pleaded no contest to reckless driving and was sentenced to 36 months' probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines.

In the months that followed, she was stopped twice by officers who discovered her driving on a suspended license. The second stop landed her in Sauer's courtroom, where he sentenced her to jail.
 
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  • #64
Astronuc said:
Somehow the system neglected her medical treatment! She is under psychiatric care and stopping medication could cause deterioration in one's mental state.
No, I read yesterday that she was refusing to eat the prison food and that was the excuse her lawyer asked for her release.
 
  • #65
Evo said:
No, I read yesterday that she was refusing to eat the prison food and that was the excuse her lawyer asked for her release.
That may be one factor, and lack of medication another. Or, different people are reporting information, or ?

from the article
He said he had learned from one of her doctors that she was not taking a certain medication while she was in custody previously and her "inexplicable deterioration" puzzled county psychiatrists.
Perhaps she deliberately didn't take her medication, or didn't have it - I don't know. But at some point, without medication, one may loose control and unable to function responsibly - that is a significant consequence and downside for some mentally ill, who get out of control when they abruptly get off their meds.


Certainly she has been pampered and going to jail is probably, for her, emotionally traumatic. But then jail is traumatic for most people.
 
  • #66
From the sheriff's point of view, I think the release came down to risk management.

The judge orders that she serve the full sentence, but tacks on the typical disclaimer that whatever happens in jail is the sheriff's responsibility (at least according to the sheriff's press conference) - i.e. follow my orders, but don't do something stupid and then blame me.

Given the normal punishment for similar offenders, the risk of dealing with Hilton's medical problems and the backlash that could occur if anything happened to her while serving time beyond what the average person would serve outweighed any personal benefits the sheriff would gain by making an example of her.

As for the problem of the average person being released without serving any time, or being released after serving only part of their sentence, it's a problem a lot of communities face. People here voted down a measure that would expand the jail to meet federal guidelines - an expansion that had to occur or risk losing federal funds. The county then found a way around the vote, raising the funds by a different method; a move that ended the political careers of a few county officials - the voters expressed their will at election time and country officials defied them via devious means. That leaves early release of prisoners as the only way to keep receiving federal funds - a move that infuriates voters nearly as much as the county officials' backdoor methods. Those are the sort of things that make we wonder why any sane person would ever run for local office.
 
  • #67
Astronuc said:
:A lot of people who go to jail have psychological problems, and perhaps some or much of that is the result of drug and/or alcohol abuse. How does society (the community) help someone like that?
One can only help people who want to be helped.

While it is not easy, everybody with the right will and attitude can overcome an alcohol or drug addiction. If that will or attitude is not there there is no point in helping.

With regards to the sheriff, I think it would be a good thing to investigate if he was not given any money or other incentives. It is really strange for a sheriff to disobey explicit orders from the judge.
 
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  • #68
Astronuc said:
That may be one factor, and lack of medication another. Or, different people are reporting information, or ?
The report that she was refusing to eat was from the correctional facility personnel. It was either a tantrum or a stunt aimed at getting released. Either way the judge is correct, she has nothing wrong that can't be handled by correctional facility medical staff.
 
  • #69
MeJennifer said:
With regards to the sheriff, I think it would be a good thing to investigate if he was not given any money or other incentives. It is really strange for a sheriff to disobey explicit orders from the judge.
I was thinking the same thing.
 
  • #70
Evo said:
I was thinking the same thing.
That kept running through my head yesterday, too. Hilton's parents are super-wealthy and it would be easy for them or their lawyer to arrange favors for those in a position to get her released. It could be something really discrete and hard to track, like securing the person a really high-paying do-nothing job at a non-Hilton business after his or her term expires.
 
  • #71
MeJennifer said:
With regards to the sheriff, I think it would be a good thing to investigate if he was not given any money or other incentives. It is really strange for a sheriff to disobey explicit orders from the judge.

Evo said:
I was thinking the same thing.

turbo-1 said:
That kept running through my head yesterday, too.

I find it hard to believe that this could be true, but I also find it hard to believe that all it takes to get out of a jail sentence is a hunger strike.

Here's an interesting Associsted Press http://www.kcbs.com/topic/ap_news.php?story=AP/APTV/National/a/a/ParisHilton-Sheriff" about Sheriff Baca that I first read in the Toronto Star.
 
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  • #72
George Jones said:
Here's an interesting Associsted Press http://www.kcbs.com/topic/ap_news.php?story=AP/APTV/National/a/a/ParisHilton-Sheriff" about Sheriff Baca that I first read in the Toronto Star.
No surprise then. I wonder what the bribe was?
 
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  • #73
Evo said:
No, I read yesterday that she was refusing to eat the prison food and that was the excuse her lawyer asked for her release.
Well, there is a risk that if she eats much less she'll become one dimensional...
 
  • #74
russ_watters said:
No, I read yesterday that she was refusing to eat the prison food and that was the excuse her lawyer asked for her release.
Well, there is a risk that if she eats much less she'll become one dimensional...

Now, that's funny.
:smile::smile::smile:
:smile::smile::smile:
:smile::smile::smile:
 
  • #75
Whitmore said he understood the media interest in the mystery medical condition but "privacy concerns" kept him mum. An hour later, publicists for the TV show "Entertainment Tonight" blasted out a mass e-mail stating that "Hilton family sources confirm exclusively to Entertainment Tonight that Paris Hilton has been released from jail due to suffering from an extreme rash on her body."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6/07/AR2007060700774.html?nav=rss_print/style

Hmm usually stress + rash = herpes.

Lordy that sounds like natsy red neck gossip don't it?
 
  • #77
russ_watters said:
Well, there is a risk that if she eats much less she'll become one dimensional...

Is that how she's planning to escape? Also, I hope you meant 2 dimensional... O_O

Also, why the hell is this thread 4 pages long? Why do I keep hearing this in the news over and over again?
 
  • #78
I take pictures of car accidents when I drive past them, too...
 
  • #79
If this has already been said, then forgive me for saying it again. It isn't easy to treat Paris fairly. How do you treat her like everyone else, when hardly any two people in the system are treated the same? The disparities in the system are a travesty.
 
  • #80
Paris says she will no longer "act dumb."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/11/paris.hilton.ap/index.html
 
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  • #81
I heard something to the effect that Paris has declared that she "will be more involved in her personal decisions". :smile:
 
  • #82
Astronuc said:
I heard something to the effect that Paris has declared that she "will be more involved in her personal decisions". :smile:
One can only hope. :bugeye:
 
  • #83
Astronuc said:
I heard something to the effect that Paris has declared that she "will be more involved in her personal decisions". :smile:

hilarious!:smile:
 
  • #84
Astronuc said:
I heard something to the effect that Paris has declared that she "will be more involved in her personal decisions". :smile:

Yeah, apparently she has several personal assistants that do everything for her. One of them said she could drive her car with no license for "business purposes".

See, this is what i don't get. If i were loaded i'd deal with all matters myself. Ok, most of us do that anyway but when you are the lucky owner of a big fat wallet you should be extra careful. If i would own a company, i would deal with all financial matters MYSELF. I just would not trust my money in the hands of others.


marlon
 
  • #85
What I don't understand is that with all her money, why didn't she have a chauffer to drive her around when she lost her license?
 
  • #86
Evo said:
What I don't understand is that with all her money, why didn't she have a chauffer to drive her around when she lost her license?
Bad advice? :biggrin:
 
  • #87
On the news last night they mentioned that she had been actually held at the medical treatment center of the main county jail. Only last night was she transferred to the infirmary of her own little Hollywood Hilton. If all goes well, in a few days she will be well enough to be put back into a regular cell just in time to be released.

It looks like either the Sheriff found a way around the judge after all, or that was one helluva rash.
 
  • #88
edward said:
On the news last night they mentioned that she had been actually held at the medical treatment center of the main county jail. Only last night was she transferred to the infirmary of her own little Hollywood Hilton. If all goes well, in a few days she will be well enough to be put back into a regular cell just in time to be released.

It looks like either the Sheriff found a way around the judge after all, or that was one helluva rash.
The cost for incarcerating an inmate there is $99 and change/day - the cost for her "medical" incarceration is many times that - over $1000/day, but what the hey! Nothing's too good for our princess.
 
  • #89
If i would own a company, i would deal with all financial matters MYSELF. I just would not trust my money in the hands of others.

That's why so many people lose money quickly, or end-up in debt. If you had as big of a wallet as Paris, the numbers would be much too complicated to deal with by yourself. You'd at least need a business manager with some sort of a finance background or an accountant to look after your money.

It looks like either the Sheriff found a way around the judge after all, or that was one helluva rash.

Most news stories I've read say that she refused to eat and barely slept. So that's why they keep her there.
 
  • #90
Dagenais said:
Most news stories I've read say that she refused to eat and barely slept. So that's why they keep her there.
Have you seen pictures of her? She may have gotten less sleep in jail, but I'll bet her caloric intake was about par for her.
 
  • #91
Dagenais said:
You'd at least need a business manager with some sort of a finance background or an accountant to look after your money.
I doubt it because the numbers may be bigger but the "operations" stay the same. Anyway, i would maybe hire some kind of a business ASSISTANT or ADVISOR but not a MANAGER. I will do the managing.

marlon
 
  • #92
I agree with you Marlon Brando.
 
  • #93
Ditto. The sad thing about people like Paris Hilton is that have squander significant opportunities, which are well above what most others will ever have. That seems to be a problem with people who have everything given to them. Her parents should have had have expected her to work or get a good education.
 
  • #94
cyrusabdollahi said:
I agree with you Marlon Brando.
:approve:
See, i have always known you were i smart guy. Takes one to know one. :wink:


Astronuc said:
Her parents should have had have expected her to work or get a good education.
Though what you say may sound a bit, err, you know "cliché", you are completely right. After having gone through this process of education etc etc she would have had a better grasp on reality and what real live is about. She wouldn't have to go to prison for such stupid reasons.

If you want to go to prison, make sure you get convicted for a cool reason like mass murdering or mega fraude (rip off the entire republican party for example). Otherwise, you would just be considered some lowlife kitty by your "inmate peers", and what possible good could come from a sissy in jail. ?

marlon
 
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  • #95
Dagenais said:
Most news stories I've read say that she refused to eat and barely slept. So that's why they keep her there.

Then that would also have been the reason that they sent her home the first time around. :rolleyes:

Do you think the average prisoner is sent to the hospital for the same reasons? Not hardly.
 
  • #96
edward said:
Then that would also have been the reason that they sent her home the first time around. :rolleyes:

Do you think the average prisoner is sent to the hospital for the same reasons? Not hardly.
Really! The guy caught with some pot won't eat jail food, doesn't sleep much, and whines a lot? He's doing his whole 3 years, regardless.
 
  • #97
edward said:
Then that would also have been the reason that they sent her home the first time around. :rolleyes:

Do you think the average prisoner is sent to the hospital for the same reasons? Not hardly.

Well the average prisoner isn't sitting on a fortune...
 
  • #98
turbo-1 said:
Really! The guy caught with some pot won't eat jail food, doesn't sleep much, and whines a lot? He's doing his whole 3 years, regardless.

In California, the guy caught with some pot would get a $100 fine and no jail time. I don't think any state puts a person away for 3 years for possession of marijuana.

http://www.norml.org/pdf_files/state_arrests_2004/coi_app4.pdf

The wife of the prosecutor in the Hilton case served no time for a very smilar offense.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20070620-1953-ca-parishilton-prosecutor.html

Edit: Ironically, I just noticed I initially voted to throw the book at her and give her the maximum sentence.
 
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  • #99
Paris will be paid $1 million for an interview after she leaves jail. This is sickening.
 
  • #100
Are we still talking about Paris?

BTW, she's hot.
 

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