Steam Calcs: Turbine Intake Pressure & 90% Steam Content

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to determining the steam pressure at the turbine intake of a steam power plant, given specific conditions such as maximum steam temperature, condenser pressure, isentropic efficiency, and required vapor quality in the turbine exhaust. The focus is on the application of thermodynamic principles and calculations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Participants seek to clarify the problem statement regarding the maximum steam temperature and the required vapor quality in the turbine exhaust.
  • Some participants suggest that the problem requires the use of steam tables or a Mollier diagram to find the turbine inlet pressure.
  • There is a mention of needing to calculate isentropic efficiency, with a suggestion to find the relevant formula online if it is not in the textbook.
  • One participant emphasizes the need for actual calculations and specific difficulties encountered in solving the problem.
  • Clarification is sought on whether the inlet temperature was mistakenly referred to as pressure, indicating potential confusion in the problem statement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for specific calculations and the use of thermodynamic resources, but there is no consensus on the exact approach or formulas to be used, as some details remain unclear.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and formulas required to solve the problem, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the turbine inlet conditions. The discussion reflects a need for further exploration of thermodynamic concepts and resources.

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Homework Statement


The maximum steam pressure by the turbineintake is 550 C. Based on available cooling water the pressure in the condensor will be 0,06bar the isentropic efficency is 80 %. Decide the steam pressure at the turbine intake if the steam content is at least 90 %

We have struggled with this question for a while and would appreciate any help we can get.
 
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Intbive said:

Homework Statement


The maximum steam pressure by the turbineintake is 550 C. Based on available cooling water the pressure in the condensor will be 0,06bar the isentropic efficency is 80 %. Decide the steam pressure at the turbine intake if the steam content is at least 90 %

I assume you mean the vapor quality of the exhaust steam is 90%
We have struggled with this question for a while and would appreciate any help we can get.

Please don't delete parts of the HW Template.

Simply saying that you've struggled to answer a problem is not showing sufficient effort to solve the problem. :frown:

You must show actual calculations to that effect and tell us exactly where you are having difficulty in proceeding to a solution. :wink:
 
Yes that's exactly what i mean, well we need somewhere to start since we can't find any sufficient formulas in our textbook :)
 
Intbive said:
Yes that's exactly what i mean, well we need somewhere to start since we can't find any sufficient formulas in our textbook :)
Well, it's going to take more than one formula to solve this problem. Your going to need either a Mollier diagram or a set of steam tables.

It's not clear what the turbine inlet conditions are. You mentioned the inlet temperature of 550 °C but called it pressure by mistake. Are you supposed to find the maximum turbine inlet pressure to satisfy the efficiency and the exit conditions?

Please post the actual problem statement verbatim.

Your book should have a formula for calculating isentropic efficiency. If not, you can find one on the internet.
 
Okay well translated as good as we can, the problem
When planning a steam power plant process, we have decided to have a maximal steam temperature of 550 degrees celsius at the turbine inlet. Based on available cooling water the pressure in the condensor will be 0,06 bar. The isentropic efficiency of the turbine is 80%. Decide the steam pressure at the turbine inlet, IF the vapor quality in the turbine exhaust have to be atleast 90 %.
 
Intbive said:
Okay well translated as good as we can, the problem
When planning a steam power plant process, we have decided to have a maximal steam temperature of 550 degrees celsius at the turbine inlet. Based on available cooling water the pressure in the condensor will be 0,06 bar. The isentropic efficiency of the turbine is 80%. Decide the steam pressure at the turbine inlet, IF the vapor quality in the turbine exhaust have to be atleast 90 %.
OK.

This page shows you the definition of isentropic efficiency of the turbine, in case you haven't located it in your textbook:

http://www.learnthermo.com/T1-tutorial/ch08/lesson-C/pg03.php

The rest of the problem involves using steam tables or a Mollier diagram (enthalpy v. entropy) to determine the turbine inlet pressure which satisfies your conditions.

You may have to make several trial solutions to find one which is best for your purposes. Good Luck!
 
Okay thank you very much !
 

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