Steps per wavelength in mesh density

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The discussion centers on the concept of mesh density as it relates to steps per wavelength in the context of a frequency domain electromagnetic (EM) solver, specifically in simulating a photonic crystal using CST Microwave Studio. Participants explore the implications of mesh density on the accuracy of simulations and the constraints imposed by hardware limitations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants relate mesh density to the Nyquist rate, suggesting that to accurately resolve wavelengths, the mesh must be sufficiently dense, ideally with a step size that allows for capturing wavelengths of twice the step size or greater.
  • One participant requests clarification on the definition of "step" in the context of their simulation and seeks guidance on determining appropriate values for steps per wavelength and minimum number of steps.
  • Another participant explains that step size refers to the distance between points in a given direction and that steps per wavelength indicates the density of points, while the minimum number of steps affects the number of wavelengths that can be captured.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between mesh density and the ability to resolve wavelengths, but there is no consensus on the specific definitions and appropriate values for steps per wavelength and minimum number of steps.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the definitions of "step" and the implications of altering mesh density due to hardware constraints.

shpongle
Hi

Could anyone explain to me the concept and significance of mesh density as a function of steps per wavelength? I am asking this in context of a frequency domain EM-solver.

Thanks
 
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It's related to the Nyquist rate for time-varying signals, only in this case it is spatial. If you were to take the Fourier transform of your solution, you would only be able to resolve wavelengths of twice your step size or greater. If you are trying to actually build an accurate time or spatial history of the solution including those wavelengths, you would need to have an even more dense mesh.
 
boneh3ad said:
It's related to the Nyquist rate for time-varying signals, only in this case it is spatial. If you were to take the Fourier transform of your solution, you would only be able to resolve wavelengths of twice your step size or greater. If you are trying to actually build an accurate time or spatial history of the solution including those wavelengths, you would need to have an even more dense mesh.

Thank you for the reply. Could you clarify a bit more ?

I am simulating a Photonic crystal in a frequency range 185-225 THz. The software which I am using is CST Microwave Studio. I am using tetrahedral meshing for frequency domain solution.

I have to alter mesh density due to computer hardware constraints.

The software provides provides two parameters to do this, namely - "steps per wavelength" and "minimum number of steps". May I ask what does "step" refer to and if there is any way to determine the appropriate number of steps per wavelength and minimum number of steps.
 
Step size usually just means the distance between two points in a given direction. I am not familiar with the software, but it sounds to me like you are setting the spacing and number of data points you are solving. Steps per wavelength is how dense the points are and the minimum number is going to determine how many wavelengths you can capture.
 
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