Strange square matrix question

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The discussion revolves around a question regarding the properties of symmetric matrices, specifically the relationship between the entries of a square matrix and its transpose.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definition of symmetric matrices and the implications of the equality \( A = A^T \). There is a focus on understanding how this relates to the entries of the matrix, particularly questioning the meaning of dimensions and index notation.

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Participants are engaging in a dialogue about the clarity of the question and the definitions involved. Some have suggested that the original poster's approach may need refinement, particularly in relation to index notation and the implications of matrix properties.

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There is a mention of the lack of explicit answers provided in the question, which contributes to the participants' uncertainty about how to proceed. The original poster expresses confusion about the question's intent.

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Homework Statement



Show that for a square matrix the (i,j) entry is equlivant to the (j,i) entry in a symmetric matrix.



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I just felt this question was weird. They don't give the answers so I'm looking for confirmation.

I guess you could just do
## A = n## x ## n ##
If symmetric
## A = A^T ##
Consider the defination of A, then, ##( n ## x ## n)^T = n ## x ## n ##
Implies (i,j) = (j,i)

I don't know maybe this way?
 
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Jbreezy said:
Consider the defination of A, then, ##( n ## x ## n)^T = n ## x ## n ##
Implies (i,j) = (j,i)
what does n x n mean? just the dimensions of the matrix? So, you've shown the transposed matrix has the same dimensions as the original one, but I don't see how this implies (i,j)=(j,i)... Are you familiar with index notation? And how the transpose of a matrix looks in index notation?

edit: uhhhh... you're right, it is a strange question. It seems to be pretty much asking you to just write down the definition. But I think your teacher/professor would be happier if you said something about index notation of matrices.
 
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You need to show that ##A=A^T## implies ##a_{ij} = a_{ji}##. Those are two different statements. Start by considering what exactly it means to say that ##A=A^T##.
 
Oh yeah I guess that would be better. I just kind of fudged it. I know index notation.
Thanks dude. It is a dumb question.
 

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