Structural Mechanics Distinction Task

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a structural mechanics task involving the calculation of axial loads and the justification of material selection for a structural element. Participants explore the implications of safety factors in material design and the appropriate application of calculations related to axial loads.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates axial loads in both vertical and horizontal directions, providing specific numerical results based on given parameters.
  • Another participant questions the appropriateness of materials like balsawood or styrofoam for structural applications, seeking justification for material choices.
  • There is a discussion about the term "justify," with some participants suggesting it implies a need to demonstrate that the chosen material has adequate strength properties and safety factors.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how to apply safety factors to their previous calculations, referencing a specific range for structural steelwork.
  • Another participant challenges the necessity of calculating angles, asserting that the axial load on the column is simply 606 kN without lateral forces, and notes that safety factors are not typically applied in structural analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of "justify" in the context of material selection, as well as the relevance of safety factors in the calculations presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the application of safety factors and the necessity of angle calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific safety factor ranges for structural steelwork but do not reach a consensus on how these factors relate to the calculations being discussed. There is also ambiguity regarding the role of lateral forces in the axial load calculations.

Terra_Bitz
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Homework Statement
Hi,

I'm stuck on answering the attached question, I know how to find the axial within the column however I do know what the question means by justifying a chosen material, help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Alfie
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The way how I found out calculate axial load is here: https://www.hunker.com/13400857/how-to-calculate-the-axial-load
To find axial load , 5m / 6m = 0.83
Arc tangent , tan-1(0.83) = 39.69
Cosine of the force , Cos(39.69) = 0.77
Sine of the force , Sin(39.69) = 0.64
Axial load in the vertical direction , (200kN/m X 6 = 1200kN / 2 = 600kN + self weight of 6kN = 606kN) So 606kN X 0.77 = 466.62kN
Axial load in the horizontal direction , (200kN/m X 6 = 1200kN / 2 = 600kN + self weight of 6kN = 606kN) So 606kN X 0.64 = 387.84kN
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Terra_Bitz said:
I do know what the question means by justifying a chosen material
Well, do you think that balsawood, for example, or perhaps styrofoam, would be good materials to use? Why or why not?
 
phinds said:
Well, do you think that balsawood, for example, or perhaps styrofoam, would be good materials to use? Why or why not?

Ah right, so essentially choose a suitable material, such as steel or RC, and talk about its pro's and cons.

I was confused when it say's 'justify' I wasn't sure as to whether it was asking me to choose a material then design a section.

Thank you Phinds
 
Terra_Bitz said:
Ah right, so essentially choose a suitable material, such as steel or RC, and talk about its pro's and cons.

I was confused when it say's 'justify' I wasn't sure as to whether it was asking me to choose a material then design a section.

Thank you Phinds
yes, but I think "justify" is perhaps a bit more firm than you are taking it to be. I would say it's not just choosing and discussing a material, it's specifically showing that it has strength properties that are at has a good safety factor in excess of what your calculations show is needed. I realize you may have already had that in mind without specifically saying so.
 
phinds said:
yes, but I think "justify" is perhaps a bit more firm than you are taking it to be. I would say it's not just choosing and discussing a material, it's specifically showing that it has strength properties that are at least a good safety factor in excess of what your calculations show is needed. I realize you may have already had that in mind without specifically saying so.

Apologies but I'm not sure I follow, I've researched what the safety factor is for structural steelwork in building, being 4-6 ( https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/factors-safety-fos-d_1624.html ), however how do I apply this to my previous calculations?
 
Terra_Bitz said:
how do I apply this to my previous calculations?
No idea. Maybe someone else here will chime in.
 
I'm not sure why you are calculating the angle: arctan(5/6) ??
The axial load on the column is just 606 kN, and there are no lateral forces on the column.

Safety factors are used when it comes to material design. I don't think the purpose of this problem is to design a section. You don't apply safety factors to structural analysis
 

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