Stuck Proving a Limit Doesn't exist

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The problem involves evaluating the limit lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow(2,-2)}\frac{4-xy}{4+xy} and determining whether it exists or not. The original poster has experience with similar limit problems but is struggling to find paths that yield a conclusive result for this particular limit.

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  • The original poster has attempted various paths, including y=-x, y=x-4, y=-2, y=x^2-6, and x=2, but is unable to simplify the expression to evaluate the limit. Participants discuss the implications of substituting specific paths and the behavior of the function as it approaches the limit.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the limit's behavior along different paths. Some suggest that demonstrating a single path leading to an undefined limit may be sufficient to conclude that the overall limit does not exist. There is an acknowledgment that the limit does not exist along any path, as indicated by the undefined nature of the quotient encountered.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on understanding the behavior of the limit rather than finding two distinct paths with different outcomes. The discussion reflects a common misconception about the necessity of multiple paths in proving the non-existence of a limit.

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The problem is to either find the limit or show that it does not exist lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow(2,-2)}\frac{4-xy}{4+xy}

I've been able to do similar problems to this such as
lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow(0,0)}\frac{xy}{x^2+y^2} where I took two different paths to the limit and found that they were not equal and so it didn't exist. However, for this one I can't seem to pick a function that gives me a limit that exists let alone two functions that give me two different limits.

I've tried coming from the following paths for the problem
y=-x
y=x-4
y=-2
y=x^2-6
x=2

No matter which one I do I can't seem to get anything to cancel out in order to simplify it to one that I can perform the limit on. Are there two functions that I can use to get this limit and how would I find these. If there aren't then how would I prove that this limit exists?
 
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I don't see anything wrong with y=(-x). Put that in and let x->2. What do you conclude?
 
When I plug in y=-x the limit becomes
lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow(2,-2)}\frac{4+x^2}{4-x^2}
But then when I substitute in the values I still end up with 8/0 which is undefined. Am I doing something wrong when I plug in that function?
 
You don't really just 'plug in'. You think about what happens as x approaches 2. And you are right, the numerator goes to 8 and the denominator goes to 0. I would say the limit doesn't exist. The quotient just gets larger and larger as x->2.
 
So I don't have to show that multiple paths equal different things in this case just that one of the paths doesn't exist?
 
rhololkeolke said:
So I don't have to show that multiple paths equal different things in this case just that one of the paths doesn't exist?

Right. In this case there is no limit along ANY path. No matter what the path you still get an 8/0 type quotient.
 
Thank you. That makes so much sense now. I was under the impression that we had to find two functions with different values but now I can see that this works too.
 

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