Sum of potentials across a resistor in series with parallel RC

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of voltages in a circuit consisting of a resistor in series with a parallel RC combination when subjected to alternating current (AC) at different frequencies. Participants explore the implications of frequency on voltage measurements across the resistor and the RC combination.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • The voltage across the first resistor and the voltage across the parallel RC combination were measured at two frequencies (80Hz and 50 kHz), showing that the sum of these voltages remained approximately constant regardless of frequency.
  • At higher frequencies, some participants propose that the voltage across the first resistor increases while the voltage across the RC combination decreases.
  • One participant suggests that the reactance of the capacitor decreases significantly at high frequencies, leading to most of the current flowing through the capacitor, which results in a low voltage across the parallel RC combination.
  • Another participant notes that the relationship between voltage and current in the circuit must adhere to the source voltage, which remains constant, influencing the observed voltage changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the observed behavior of voltages in the circuit at different frequencies, but there are nuances in the explanations provided, particularly regarding the implications for current and power, which remain less explored.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the circuit's behavior, such as the exact relationship between current, voltage, and impedance at varying frequencies, are not fully resolved. The discussion also does not delve into the detailed mathematical derivations that could clarify these relationships further.

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Homework Statement



We have built a circuit with an ac source containing a resistor in series with a parallel RC combination, we have measured the voltage across the first resistor and the voltage across the RC combination with a high and a low frequency.
80Hz: V0 = 2,325 V en Vm = 2,780 V V0 +Vm = 5,105 V
50 kHz: V0 = 4,900 V en Vm = 0,156 V V0 +Vm = 5,056 V

(with V0 the voltage across the first resistor and Vm the voltage across the parallel RC combination).
(The power source delivered a voltage with an amplitude of 10V)

We saw that the sum of these voltages remained approx. the same regardless of frequency.
And that at higher frequencies the voltage across the first resistor rises and the voltage across the RC combination becomes less.

Can you explain this behaviour

thanks

Homework Equations



I think i'll need to use the impedance of a parallel RC circuit which is
[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{\frac{1}{R^2}+\frac{1}{Xc^2}}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I know how to calculate the impedance of the parallel RC combination and the impedance of the resistor (the impedance of a resistor is it's resistance) but i don't know how to combine these factors into finding an explanation for the behaviour.
I think it might have something to do with the dependence of the capacitor's reactance with frequency which is given by:
[tex]\frac{1}{j \times \omega \times C}[/tex]
 
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Hi UHchemstu ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)

Yes, jXC = 1/jωC, so 1/XC2 = ω2C2 :wink:
 
I already found the answer;
If what I think is right, then at very high frequencies the reactance of the capacitor goes down drastically,
so almost all of the current flows through the capacitor. The voltage over the parallel resistor and capacitor is then given by V=I*Xc with Xc the reactance of the capacitor, Xc is verry low at high frequencies so the voltage over the parallel RC combination is verry low whilst the voltage over the first resistor becomes higher because the sum of the voltages must be equal to the voltage of the source (the amplitude) and that remains the same regardless of frequency.
 
Yes, that looks right! :smile:

(though you might like to add something about what happens to the current, and maybe even the power :wink:)
 

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