Superconducting material has a rating for critical field intensity

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The discussion revolves around the properties and behaviors of superconductors, specifically focusing on critical field intensity, current densities in type II superconductors, and the effects of external loads on superconducting currents. The questions raised explore theoretical implications and practical applications of superconductivity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the magnetic field generated by a superconductor's own current contributes to its critical field intensity rating.
  • Another participant asserts that the field does contribute and states that this is what determines the critical current density.
  • There is uncertainty regarding which type II superconducting material currently achieves the highest current densities, with a suggestion that YBCO cables may hold the record at specific temperatures.
  • A participant raises a question about whether applying a load to a superconducting material with an existing current would create a counter-potential that reduces the current, seeking clarification on the need for a power source to maintain levitation.
  • Another participant responds by stating that placing a load over the coil does not change the magnetic flux and suggests that the current in the coil would actually increase due to the induction effects from the levitating object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of external loads on superconducting currents, with some suggesting a counter-potential may arise while others argue that the current would increase. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about the behavior of superconductors under load and the specific conditions affecting current densities, such as temperature dependencies and the nature of magnetic flux changes.

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Hi, here is a couple of questions about superconductors

Each superconducting material has a rating for critical field intensity. Now, does the field generated by its own current count?

And also what is the current superconducting (type II) material with highest current densities achieved?

And third question. If you have a superconducting material with an already initiated current, and you put some kind of a load on top of it (to levitate), would there be a counter-effect on the current inside the superconductor, meaning, would the current slow down due to the force between the two objects.
 
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trilex987 said:
Hi, here is a couple of questions about superconductors

Each superconducting material has a rating for critical field intensity. Now, does the field generated by its own current count?

Yes, this is in fact what determines the critical current density.

And also what is the current superconducting (type II) material with highest current densities achieved?

I am not 100% sure and obviously it depends on the temperature; but I am pretty sure the latest version of YBCO cables hold the record at both 4.2K and 77K.

And third question. If you have a superconducting material with an already initiated current, and you put some kind of a load on top of it (to levitate), would there be a counter-effect on the current inside the superconductor, meaning, would the current slow down due to the force between the two objects.

I can't see why this would happen, obviously the field distribution would change but the speed of light in the superconductor shiuldn't (at least not much, although there would presumably be small local effects due to change in field).
 


No, no, sorry, I formulated my last question incorrectly, I meant would the load cause a counter-potential which would reduce the current in the superconductor.
In other words, after you induce current in the superconductor, would you need a power source to keep the object above levitating, or is it a state of balance in which the current keeps on flowing for ever (in theory) and the object will always stay in its levitative state.
 


Trilex, did we met somewhere else? Anyway, my answer will be the same.

When you put a load over the coil, the magnetic flux remains the same. As your levitating object repels the field, the induction must increase elsewhere, which means that the current increases in the coil.

This is consistent with the energy brought by the falling mass of the levitated object.
 

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