Superluminal neutrinos now 'pseudoscience'?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the status of the superluminal neutrino results from the OPERA experiment at Gran Sasso, specifically whether these results are now considered pseudoscience following the identification of errors in the experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the superluminal neutrinos are now considered pseudoscience.
  • One participant argues that the OPERA physicists maintained high standards of scientific method and error analysis, suggesting that the initial results were not pseudoscience but rather a normal part of scientific inquiry.
  • Another participant notes that if someone continues to cite the incorrect initial OPERA results as evidence of superluminal propagation, that could be classified as pseudoscience.
  • A request for a link to the article discussing the circuit error is made, indicating interest in further details about the identified issues with the experiment.
  • Links to external resources, including a Wikipedia page and a CERN press release, are provided to support the discussion about the connection error.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of the OPERA results, with some defending the scientific integrity of the process while others imply that continued reference to the initial findings could be seen as pseudoscientific.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of scientific error correction and the potential for misinterpretation of initial findings, but does not resolve the broader implications for the status of superluminal neutrinos.

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are the supposed superluminal neutrinos at gran sasso now considered 'pseudoscience'?
 
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Pseudo Epsilon said:
are the supposed superluminal neutrinos at gran sasso now considered 'pseudoscience'?

The OPERA physicists were certainly doing science with high standards for the scientific method and error analysis. Unfortunately a bad connection in a circuit existed and it took a long time for this problem to be identified. So the result and subsequent correction were not pseudoscience, but were a ordinary example of science and the way that errors are evaluated and corrected.

If you were to find someone still pointing to the incorrect initial OPERA results as evidence of superluminal propagation, then that would be an example of pseudoscience.
 
thank you because my friend still uses that as an example of superluminality. Could you please provide a link to the bad circuit article fzero?
 
many thanks.
 

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