Supplement to Griffiths E&M/Prep for Graduate E&M

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The discussion centers around recommendations for textbooks or problem books on electrodynamics or electromagnetics that are suitable for students transitioning from Griffiths' E&M text to graduate-level materials. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various texts, considering factors such as problem selection and difficulty level.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests looking for textbooks that are at the level of Griffiths or slightly above, mentioning Jackson, Schwinger, and Landau as graduate-level texts.
  • Another participant recommends searching through previous E&M posts on Physics Forums for advanced problem-solving discussions.
  • Reitz and Milford is mentioned as a more formal text than Griffiths, with one participant expressing a preference for Griffiths.
  • Heald and Marion is proposed as a suitable intermediate text between Griffiths and Jackson.
  • Some participants express a desire for additional problem books, noting that Shadowitz and Lorrain meet their needs.
  • Engineering Electromagnetics by Hayt is mentioned as a good resource by one participant.
  • Franklin's Classical Electromagnetism is suggested as a readable text at the Jackson level.
  • There is a discussion about the varying interpretations of what it means to have "worked through" a textbook, with some emphasizing the importance of deep understanding and problem-solving.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the need for an intermediate text, arguing that those who have worked through Griffiths should be prepared for graduate-level texts.
  • Another participant agrees with the sentiment that working through a book involves more than just reading and attempting end-of-chapter problems.
  • Concerns are raised about Griffiths having a limited number of exercises, prompting the search for additional resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of an intermediate textbook between Griffiths and graduate-level texts. While some believe that Griffiths adequately prepares students for advanced studies, others feel that additional resources are beneficial for deeper understanding and practice.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that their understanding of "working through" a textbook may vary, highlighting the subjective nature of learning approaches and the importance of problem-solving in mastering the material.

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Hi folks,

I'm currently working through Griffith's E&M text for school. It is my favorite subject and I am hoping to find another textbook or problem book on electrodynamics or electromagnetics. I was hoping for something at the level of Griffiths or slightly above, something that'll prepare me for the graduate-level texts I have by Jackson, Schwinger, and Landau. Preferably with a good selection of problems too.

I have the Feynman Lectures already. I was considering Schwartz, Lorraine, or Greiner. I've heard mixed things about Purcell/Morin. Does anyone have any experience with these textbooks?

Thank you,
MM
 
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We used J.D. Jackson when I was in college, and it was very good. Suggestion for you though is to do a search on Physics Forums of a variety of E&M posts, where we helped different advanced students with some of their homework problems, etc. In many cases, I think we took it a step or two beyond what is often shown in a textbook. ## \\ ## See e.g. https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...iformly-polarized-sphere.877891/#post-5513730 ## \\ ## and
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/magnetic-flux-is-the-same-if-we-apply-the-biot-savart.927681/ ## \\ ## and
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...perature-relationship-in-ferromagnets.923380/
 
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Reitz and Milford is another decent text...a bit more formal than Griffiths. I learned from Reitz as an undergrad and later taught from Griffiths. I like Griffiths better but it depends I noticed a few months ago one could get Reitz older edition for like $9 used...worth just having probably.
 
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I like the idea of perusing through PF's solved problems on E&M. Perhaps I'll buy every problem book available as well.

I've discovered Shadowitz and Lorrain are at the level I need.
 
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I have Reitz and Milford and “Engineering Electromagnetics” by Hayt and it seems to be good.
 
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Try this. It is on the Jackson level, but readable.
Classical Electromagnetism: Second Edition
(Dover Books on Physics) 2nd Edition

by Jerrold Franklin
 
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I've noted Franklin's text as well his Solved Problems book. I intend to get them when I get to higher level E&M.
 
jasonRF said:
Heald and Marion is a good book between Griffiths and Jackson:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486490602/?tag=pfamazon01-20
By the way, Heald and Marion also has a solutions manual available from the publisher. The link is at
https://store.doverpublications.com/0486490602.html
but I can only see it from a computer - from my phone I cannot seem to get the link to show up on that page. The manual is a 26 MB pdf file, and the direct link is
https://www.doverpublications.com/solutions/490602.pdf

jason
 
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I'm a bit puzzled by the demand of something "in between" Griffiths's excellent E&M undergraduate textbook and graduate-level textbooks like Jackson. I think if you have worked through Griffiths you are well prepared to read any graduate-level text on E&M.
 
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vanhees71 said:
I'm a bit puzzled by the demand of something "in between" Griffiths's excellent E&M undergraduate textbook and graduate-level textbooks like Jackson. I think if you have worked through Griffiths you are well prepared to read any graduate-level text on E&M.
I agree with this 100%.

I think that people have different ideas of what it means to work through a book though. In my opinion (and I learned this far too late) to work through a book means more than reading each chapter and trying some end-of-chapter problems. You need to be able to, with a pen and paper, work through the chapter understanding what the author is saying at each step along the way.
 
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vanhees71 said:
I'm a bit puzzled by the demand of something "in between" Griffiths's excellent E&M undergraduate textbook and graduate-level textbooks like Jackson. I think if you have worked through Griffiths you are well prepared to read any graduate-level text on E&M.
Griffiths has been a good textbook so far, but I like to learn from multiple resources. Having additional problems to work on is always nice too, as Griffiths does not have that many exercises.
 

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