Suppose i have a bucket full of water in a closed room,the water is

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In a closed room with a bucket of water, the temperature of both the water and the room can decrease over time due to evaporation, which is a phase change that requires energy. This energy, known as the heat of vaporization, is drawn from the water, causing its temperature to drop. As water molecules evaporate, they increase the kinetic energy of the air, which can lead to an overall increase in entropy, consistent with the second law of thermodynamics. The system is not thermodynamically isolated, as heat can still flow between the water and the air. Thus, the decrease in temperature of the water and room does not violate thermodynamic principles, as the energy distribution changes in favor of the gas phase.
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There is not enough information given. The entropy of a gas depends on other things besides just the temperature (and I don't know how to calculate the entropy of a solid):
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/therm/entropgas.html

However, given the right conditions for the other variables (e.g. a large volume) then it is certainly possible for the low-temperature gas to have more entropy than the high-temperature solid. Given other conditions (e.g. a small volume) then it is possible for the solid to have more entropy.

This is why sublimation occurs more at low pressure than at high pressure.
 
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DaleSpam said:
There is not enough information given. The entropy of a gas depends on other things besides just the temperature (and I don't know how to calculate the entropy of a solid):
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/therm/entropgas.html

However, given the right conditions for the other variables (e.g. a large volume) then it is certainly possible for the low-temperature gas to have more entropy than the high-temperature solid. Given other conditions (e.g. a small volume) then it is possible for the solid to have more entropy.

This is why sublimation occurs more at low pressure than at high pressure.

yes entropy can be high even if the system has high thermal energy
you described well for my original question,thanks
just last think that still is doubtful-does SLOT was verified in my original question,it was clear that the temperature of water in bucket and in air both goes down,but what about entropy?
 
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nouveau_riche said:
does SLOT was verified in my original question,it was clear that the temperature of water in bucket and in air both goes down,but what about entropy?
Entropy goes up.
 
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