Surface integral problem: ##\iint_S (x^2+y^2)dS##

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The problem involves evaluating the surface integral ##\iint_S (x^2+y^2)dS## over a surface defined by the vector equation ##r(u, v) = (2uv, u^2-v^2, u^2+v^2)##, constrained by the condition ##u^2+v^2 \leq 1##.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the algebraic manipulation of the integrand and the transition to polar coordinates. Questions arise regarding the validity of the answer provided in the answer sheet, with some participants suggesting that the answer must be positive due to the nature of the integrand.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants verifying calculations and questioning the correctness of the answer sheet. There is no explicit consensus on the resolution of the problem, but there is a shared understanding that the integrand should yield a positive result.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential complexities in the algebra and the implications of the surface integral's properties. The answer sheet's claim of a zero result is under scrutiny, leading to further exploration of assumptions and interpretations.

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Homework Statement


##\iint_S (x^2+y^2)dS##, ##S##is the surface with vector equation ##r(u, v)## = ##(2uv, u^2-v^2, u^2+v^2)##, ##u^2+v^2 \leq 1##

Homework Equations


Surface Integral. ##\iint_S f(x, y, z)dS = \iint f(r(u, v))\left | r_u \times r_v \right |dA##,

The Attempt at a Solution


First, I tried to shift the form of ##\iint_S (x^2+y^2)dS##. ##x^2+y^2##.
##x^2+y^2## = ##u^4v^4+2u^2v^2+v^4##, and ##\left | r_u \times r_v \right |## = ##\sqrt{32v^4+64u^2v^2+32u^4}##
Thus, the initial integral becomes ##\iint_S 2^2sqrt{2}(u^2+v^2)^3 dudv##
I used polar coordinates, as u = rsin##\theta## and v = ##rsin\theta##. ##0\leq r\leq 1##, ## 0 \leq \theta \leq 2\pi##. As result, the answer came to be ##2^3\sqrt{2}/5*\pi## but the answer sheet says its zero. Am I missing something?[/B]
 
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I checked your algebra, and all looks good up to the switch to polar coords.
Did you try without the substitution?
 
I tried, but it was way too complexed. Anyway, if my algebra and switghing to polar coords is not bad, is it presumable that the 'answer sheet' is wrong?
 
You know immediately just looking at the problem that the answer must be positive. The integrand is nonnegative. So, yes, the answer sheet is wrong.
 

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