Surface Volume and Line charge densities, how to solve problems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to electric fields generated by a uniformly charged solid sphere, specifically focusing on the application of charge densities and Gauss's law. Participants explore the implications of the shell theorem in this context.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • ARi presents a problem involving a solid sphere with a uniform charge distribution and seeks clarification on the use of charge densities in relation to Gauss's law.
  • One participant suggests that Gauss's law may not be necessary for this problem, proposing instead to use the shell theorem to simplify the calculation of the electric field.
  • Another participant explains the shell theorem, stating that it allows for the assumption that the charge of a uniformly charged sphere acts as if it were concentrated at the center.
  • ARi expresses unfamiliarity with the term "shell theorem" and seeks further understanding.
  • A participant elaborates on the shell theorem, indicating its applicability to both spherical shells and solid spheres, while questioning its status as a formal theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of understanding regarding the shell theorem and its application. While some agree on its relevance, others express uncertainty about its formal recognition and implications in solving the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the necessity of using Gauss's law versus the shell theorem for this specific problem, and participants have varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electrostatics, particularly those studying electric fields and charge distributions, may find this discussion relevant.

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This question is a perfect example:

A solid sphere 25cm in radius carries 14microC, distributed uniformly throughout it's volume. Find the electric field strength a) 15cm b)25cm and c)50 cm from center.

I know that I need my gaussian surface and I also need
p=q/v where p is the (Qenclosed) in the equation: Qenclosed/epsilon=EA

Could someone help me understand what the charge densities are for. Do I have to subsitute Qenclosed for p or do I just use it as a clue that I need the volume?

Thank you for your time!

Warmest regards,
ARi :"D
 
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I don't think you actually need to use Gauss's law for this one, TBH. Since it's a sphere with uniform ρ, by the Shell Theorem, it acts like all the charge were centered at, well, the center. I'd solve using

E = q/(4πε₀r^2)

If you really want to use a Gaussian surface, since it's symmetrical:

qenc/ε₀ = EA -> E = 14µC/ε₀(4πR^2)

Where R is .15m+whatever the distance is from the sphere. Since the shell theorem comes from Gauss's Law, sort of, I guess they're actually the same answer, though.

Hope this helps.
 
The shell theorem is new to me. Maybe I don't know with that name. THANK YOU!
 
The shell theorem says if you have a "shell", infinitely thin and spherical with uniform charge density, the charge acts as if all the charge were at the center. It also works with rings, but not in the 3rd dimeension. The corollary is that a solid sphere, being an infinite number of shells, also acts as if it were at the center.

We learned it in AP physics, but I don't know if it's a 'real' theorem.
 

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