Symmetric matrix real eigenvalues

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that a symmetric 2x2 matrix has real eigenvalues, specifically for the matrix represented as {(a,b),(b,d)}. Participants are exploring the implications of the determinant and the quadratic formula in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss deriving the characteristic polynomial from the determinant and applying the quadratic formula. Questions arise regarding the positivity of the discriminant, particularly the term under the square root.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into expressing the square root term as a sum of squares, while others are questioning how to handle specific terms in the expression. Multiple lines of reasoning are being explored without a clear consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the challenge of demonstrating that the discriminant is always non-negative, with some focusing on the implications of the terms involved in the quadratic formula.

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Homework Statement



Prove a symmetric (2x2) matrix always has real eigenvalues. The problem shows the matrix as {(a,b),(b,d)}.


Homework Equations



The problem says to use the quadratic formula.

The Attempt at a Solution



From the determinant I get (a-l)(d-l) - b^2 = 0 which expands to l^2 - (a+d)l + (ad - b^2) = 0

Using the quadratic formula I get for under the square root: (a + d)^2 - 4(ad-b^2)
How can I show that this is always positive?

Thanks for the help
 
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You can write the square root term as a sum of squares, which is always positive.
 
How do you deal with the -4ad term? I tried to factor it but couldn't figure out how
 
Can you see what (a+d)^2 - 4ad is?
 

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