Symmetry in Landen's transformation in elliptic integrals

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of Landen's transformation and the choice of parameters a and b in the transformation. There is also mention of the use of elliptic integrals in a paper by Derjaguin, Muller, and Toporov to describe the deformation of two solids in contact. The transformation is shown to work for real values of a and b, but may not hold if defined over a complex field.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landen%27s_transformation"

Since both the expressions [tex]a_1[/tex] and [tex]b_1[/tex] in Landen's transformation are selected in an arbitrary manner, is it all right to define [tex]a_1[/tex] with the geometric mean and [tex]b_1[/tex] with the arithmetic mean, instead of as given in the above link? I think so, but what is your opinion?


Irrelevant background: In the 1975 Journal of Colloid and Interface Science paper by the Russians Derjaguin, Muller and Toporov, the authors attempt to take long range van der Waals type adhesion into account during contact deformation. They use the Landau Lifgarbagez formulation (Vol 7, Theory of elasticity) for the deformation profile of two symmetric solids, under loading and uniform contact, for describing the deformed surface profile. They end up with an elliptic integral (Eq. 6, in the paper) which they magically transform to the regular complete elliptic int. of the first kind form. I am trying to re-derive their solution and it appears that the symmetry argument is important to keep the value of the elliptic modulus under 1. Otherwise, they should end up with a diverging series solution to the integral.
 
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That looks true to me. Using the first transformation in the citation:

[tex]\begin{aligned} \int_0^{\pi/2}\frac{dt}{\sqrt{a^2\cos^2(t)+b^2\sin^2(t)}}&=\int_0^{\infty}\frac{dx}{\sqrt{(x^2+a^2)(x^2+b^2)}}\\
&=\int_0^{\infty}\frac{dt}{\sqrt{(t^2+\left(\frac{a+b}{2}\right)^2)(t^2+(\sqrt{ab})^2)}}\\
&=\int_0^{\infty}\frac{dt}{\sqrt{(t^2+(\sqrt{ab})^2)(t^2+\left(\frac{a+b}{2}\right)^2)}}\\
&=\int_0^{\infty}\frac{dx}{\sqrt{(x^2+A^2)(x^2+B^2)}};\quad A=\sqrt{ab}, B=\frac{a+b}{2}\\
&=\int_0^{\pi/2}\frac{dt}{\sqrt{A^2\cos^2(t)+B^2\sin^2(t)}}
\end{aligned}
[/tex]
 
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Thanks Jack. That's how I chose to consider it as well. And it certainly is true when a, b and A, B are defined over the real domain. But if we examine the definition over a complex field, the transformation seems to stretch things a bit. But nevertheless, elliptics are usually defined exclusively over the in the real space and that fits my case. Thanks!
 

What is symmetry in Landen's transformation in elliptic integrals?

Symmetry in Landen's transformation refers to the property of the transformation that allows for the simplification of elliptic integrals by reducing them to simpler forms. It involves the use of trigonometric identities to manipulate the integrals and reduce the number of terms in the expression.

How does Landen's transformation work?

In Landen's transformation, the original elliptic integral is rewritten as a sum of two integrals, each with a smaller amplitude. The amplitude is the coefficient of the sine or cosine term in the integral. This process is repeated until the amplitude becomes zero, at which point the integral can be easily evaluated.

What is the significance of Landen's transformation?

Landen's transformation is significant because it allows for the calculation of elliptic integrals, which are important in many areas of mathematics and physics, in a more efficient and simplified manner. It also provides a link between elliptic integrals and trigonometric functions, making it easier to understand and apply in various contexts.

What are the limitations of Landen's transformation?

While Landen's transformation is a powerful tool for simplifying and evaluating elliptic integrals, it is not applicable to all types of integrals. It is most effective for integrals with rational coefficients and may not work for integrals with irrational coefficients. Additionally, it may not work for integrals with certain types of singularities.

What are some applications of Landen's transformation?

Landen's transformation has applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and mathematics. It is used in the calculation of the period of a pendulum, the motion of a particle in a central force field, and the calculation of the electric potential of a charged ring, among others. It is also used in the design of cryptographic algorithms and in the study of special functions.

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