Synchronizing two devices with an RF signal

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The discussion revolves around synchronizing two LEDs using RF signals without physical connections, exploring various methods and technologies suitable for this application. Participants consider different approaches, including remote control systems, optical solutions, and RF communication, while addressing practical constraints related to the setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks suggestions for simple and inexpensive RF systems to synchronize two LEDs placed 2 meters apart.
  • Another participant suggests using remote control systems, providing links to specific products for transmitters and receivers.
  • Some participants propose using photocells or phototransistors, but express concerns about line of sight and potential obstructions.
  • A participant mentions the use of a heart rate monitor as a potential model for the synchronization method, suggesting the possibility of using a specific frequency for communication.
  • There is a discussion about the risk of LEDs getting out of sync if the pulse is only used for toggling states, with suggestions to use a 555 timer to maintain pulse length consistency.
  • One participant recommends looking into super regenerative receivers and provides a link to relevant products.
  • Another participant mentions the feasibility of using 433 MHz data links and suggests configurations for LED control using RF transmitters and receivers.

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Participants express a range of ideas and suggestions, but there is no consensus on a single solution. Multiple competing views regarding the best method for synchronization remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the physical setup, including potential obstructions and the need for a removable solution. There are also concerns about ensuring reliable synchronization under varying conditions.

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I need two synchronously flashing LEDS (as if they were connected together), but if possible I prefer to avoid connecting them with a wire. No problem with each one having its own battery and a driver. They will be about 2m apart without anything that could stop RF in between. I find it hard to believe there are no ready simple and cheap systems that can be used for such applications, but I am either using incorrect terms when googling, or what I am looking for is buried under other, unrelated systems.

Any suggestions what to look for, or what are correct googling terms?
 
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A photocell on the slave. Can also modulate the master and bandpass the slave amplifier if needed.
Garage door remote and receiver.
TV remote and receiver. (IR or ultrasonic)
 
Tom.G said:
A photocell on the slave. Can also modulate the master and bandpass the slave amplifier if needed.
Garage door remote and receiver.
TV remote and receiver. (IR or ultrasonic)
I was thinking something similar. At a range of 2 meters I would not consider anything other than optical.
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@Borek is there a reason why photocells or phototransistors could not be used? Will there be a barrier between at times?
 
Sorry guys, I was (and am) busy with other things, but I have read everything you posted.

LEDs will be on the wings of the RC plane - so I can't guarantee they will both see each other (fuselage in between), construction is not exactly rigid, and they will be mounted using velcro. It all makes me doubt IR and photocell solutions will work, as the line of sight can be obscured and I can't guarantee directionality of the LED and photocell (and I assume it is necessary). I have nice lights on other model, controlled with Arduino and whatnot, but this time I need an easily removable solution that can be used on any model.

I have a chest strap-based heart rate monitor that apparently communicates with the handlebar mounted display using a radio. I believe all the chest sensor does is it is sending a pulse for each heart beat, this is more or less kind of a solution I was thinking about (and would be satisfactory). (Actually if you can suggest what frequency it can use I could try to check if that's how it works using RTL-SDR scanner).

Yes, there is a potential problem with LEDs getting out of synch if the pulse is used just for toggling the state. At the same time if I am able to just make them start the pulse at the same time and use 555 to keep the pulse length mostly identical on both wings it should be enough.

They will never work for longer than about 30 minutes

I will look into remotes.
 
433 MHz data links work well.

You might put a LED on the Rx with a driver MOSFET, with the transmitter in parallel with the controlled LED.

Or transmit control from the body, to two LEDs each with a Receiver on the same frequency.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/433Mhz-WL-RF-Transmitter-Receiver-Link-Kit-Module-for-Arduino-ARM-MCU-Wireless/223109707057?hash=item33f25ff531:g:f3wAAOSw44BYFvYw:rk:12:pf:0
 
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