Syringe Pump Manufacturing: Motors Used in Systems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the manufacturing of syringe pumps, specifically focusing on the types of motors used in these systems, including stepper motors and DC motors. Participants explore the technical aspects of motor selection, control circuits, and practical considerations for prototyping.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that stepper motors are commonly used in syringe pumps, driven by a lead screw and controlled by a pulse train from a clock circuit.
  • Questions arise about generating the pulse train, with some participants proposing simple RC circuits or microcontrollers for control.
  • There is a discussion about the feasibility of using basic microcontrollers like the 8051 or PIC for controlling the syringe pump, especially in a product setting.
  • Concerns are raised about the smoothness of motion provided by stepper motors and their suitability for specific applications, along with inquiries about the cost of the entire system.
  • Participants mention the advantages and disadvantages of stepper motors, including torque, cost, size, and current requirements, and suggest alternatives like DC motors with gearboxes for cost-effective solutions.
  • One participant seeks advice on selecting the right stepper motor based on specific requirements, including steps per revolution, gear ratios, and flow rates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best motor type for syringe pumps, with some favoring stepper motors for their torque and control simplicity, while others suggest DC motors as a more economical option. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal choice of motor and control method for different applications.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for driver chips to control motors, as microcontrollers alone may not provide sufficient current. There is also mention of the complexity involved in prototyping versus large-scale production, indicating different considerations based on project scale.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for hobbyists, engineers, and students interested in syringe pump design, motor control, and electronics, particularly those looking to prototype or manufacture similar systems.

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What does it take to manufacture such a syringe pump?
What kind of motor is usually used in these systems?
http://www.macros.com.tw/p_kds.asp
 
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can we see it better in this picture?
http://www.syringepump.com/oem.htm
 
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Usually a stepper motor driving a lead screw.
You run the stepper from a simple clock circuit that provides a train of pulses to the stepper driver IC.
 
But how would one get that train of pulses?
And is there anything related to microprocessor?
(I am sorry. I am an idiot in electronics)
 
You could just use a simple RC circuit and a stepper driver IC
Some example circuits here http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ih/doc/stepper/control2/connect.html

In a real product you would probably use either a very simple micro (8051) or a PIC just because it is easier to use a single board across a range of products with different features and a micro is useful if you want to add things like a keypad or have accurately adjustable rates.
 
Thanks mgb_phys, regarding the "very simple micro (8051)", is there any good online introduction or tutorial that i could follow?

I think i would need a real product setting. Basically, I would like to reproduce the above micr-processer controlled syringe pump. Is it difficult to do so?
 
Generally board level micros require you to buy a dev kit and programming hardware.
If you are doing large production runs it's worthwhile but if this is just a hobby/ptorotype project you might be better off with a Basic stamp. This is a single chip computer that runs BASIC and can control lots of things like stepper motors - you program it with a serial lead from your PC.
They are made by a few companies - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC_Stamp
If you are in the UK these people are very helpful http://www.milinst.com/

The next step up if you want to do 'C' or assembler is a PIC - again a very simple single chip micro. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIC_microcontroller

Either way you will need a driver chip to control the stepper - the micro cannot drive the current needed for the motor directly.
 
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Do you think a step motor will do?
I mean would it deliver reasonably smooth motion for my application?
And how much would you estimate the entire system to be?
I will need a prototype only.
 
Stepper motors are typically 200 steps/revolution.
The lead screw would be perhaps 1/8inch (3mm) pitch so one step would be 1/100mm movement of the syringe. Max speed of the stepper is typically 1/second so you would only move the syringe 3mm/sec.

Advantage of a stepper is high torque - so no need for a gearbox, simple to drive.
Disadvantages - expensive, large and high peak current.

For a cheap product you could use a small DC motor and a gear box.
Put a slotted disc on the end of the lead screw and use a LED/photo-diode pair to count the rotation and control the speed and distance of the screw.
 
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McMaster-Carr has some nice little DC motors with step down gear boxes on them for a relatively cheap price:

24 VDC— Have sleeve bearings.
p/n: 6331K35 $59.93
 
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i too m working on syringe pumps...I'll be using 3717 ICs to drive them...But how do i choose the right stepper motor. My specs are :1.8 degree, unipolar, hybrid stepper motor...200 steps/revolution...How do i decide on the rpm, torque, current/voltage rating? i'll be using a gear ratio of 1:120...n flow rate required is 0-10ml/hour.
I need help coz once i decide on the motor I can decide the Vmm for my IC.
 

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