Taylor Approximation (I think) on Transmission Coefficient

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The discussion focuses on deriving the transmission coefficient T in the limit where αL is much greater than 1. The equation for T involves hyperbolic sine functions, and participants explore Taylor expansion techniques to simplify it. Key insights include recognizing that as αL approaches infinity, the term sinh(2αL) can be approximated, leading to a significant simplification of T. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding when to apply Taylor expansions and the behavior of exponential functions in limits. Ultimately, the goal is to arrive at the approximate form of T without losing critical terms in the process.
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Homework Statement



I have this equation:

T=(1+\frac{U_{0}^{2}}{4E(U_{0}-E)}sinh^{2}(2 \alpha L))^{-1}

Where α is given by:

\alpha = \sqrt{ \frac{2m(U_{0}-E)}{\hbar^{2}}}

I have to show that in the limit αL>>1 my equation is approximately given by:

T=\frac{16E(U_{0}-E)}{U_{0}^{2}}e^{(-4 \alpha L)}


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The Attempt at a Solution



I am horrible with taylor approximations and sometimes am not even sure when to use them (hence the "I think" in the subject).

I would assume that we are approximating due to the question. I would also assume that because of that, we want to taylor expand. I didn't try this by hand, but I did put it into Maple and it said that there wasn't a taylor expansion for this particular item.

Am I approaching it correctly? Taylor expansions and when to use them are my goal between spring and summer semester, that's for sure. :biggrin:
 
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Okay I lied. I tried the expansion again from 1 to 1 instead of 0 to 1. This got me closer, assuming I am doing it right. Except my α term is gone now.

T=\frac{16(e^{2L})^{2}E(U_{0}-E)}{(1+U_{0}^{2})((e^{2L})^{2}-1)^{2}}

With a term involving what looks like the letter O. I've never used Maple to do these, so I'm not familiar with that term.

It looks like if I multiply that all out, I might have something. With the exception of my missing α terms.EDIT: I mistyped this into maple so the solution isn't right. I corrected it, but now I'm not even close. So I have to be doing something drastically long.
 
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Oh...I also expanded over α.

I tried simplifying it and got close but can't quite get there. Not to mention I am missing the α term I need.
 
You don't need to Taylor expand, nor do you need to substitute in the expression for alpha. Think about it this way: sinh(aL)=1/2(eaL - e-aL). What happens when aL approaches infinity? No calculation required!

Now, what happens to sinh(aL)^2 when aL approaches infinity?
 
Well...when e-aL has -aL goes to infinity it goes to zero. When eaL goes to inifinity, it diverges to infinity...right?

Then trying the next part, the infinity throws me off again. So I think I am missing something. :confused:

Plus if I try it that way, I can't get my 16 out front. At least I don't think I can.
 
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Ok. I've tried and tried approximate this thing, but I am still not getting anywhere. I've attached my latest attempt in Maple. It's close, but not quite there.

What do you guys think?
 

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Start with sinh(x) = (ex - e-x)/2

so sinh2(x) = (ex - e-x)2/4 = ?
 
That gives me (e2x+e-2x-2)/4
 
Do the same for sinh2(2αL).

Presumably, e2(2αL) >> 2 >> e-2(2αL),

Now, justify getting rid of the 1
 
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Hmm...can I just get rid of the one because it really has no impact on the final values since it's such a small number. Especially when dealing with infinities on exponents.

So now I have a 4 in the numerator and two exponentials. I have no idea how I can get what I need from that. :confused:
 
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SammyS said:
Do the same for sinh2(2αL).

Presumably, e2(2αL) >> 2 >> e-2(2αL),

What the above implies is that for αL >> 1,
sinh2(2αL) → (e2(2αL))/4

So, if you drop the "1 +", you should have your result.
 
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Ok. I'm getting close to understanding this. :shy:

You get sinh2(2αL) → (e2(2αL))/4 because as αL >> 1 the negative exponent drops off to zero?

Assuming that is correct. Do you have any suggestions on what to look up, topics/subjects, in order to get more practice identifying and approximating stuff? Doesn't have to be this type of physics, just anything.
 
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Very often the Taylor series approach works fine. This was just an unusual situation. It helped to have a result to match. Sometimes you must simply "play around" with the functions. Graphing can also help.
 
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Here's a little more straight forward way to show this.

Starting with sinh(x) = (ex - e-x)/2 = (ex/2)(1-e-2x) → (ex/2) for x >> 1 .

So, sinh2(x) → e2x/4 for x >> 1 .

Put that result into T.

As x → ∞, 1/(1+x) → 1/x-(1/x)^2+(1/x)^3-(1/x)^4+…

Keeping the first term should give you the result.
 
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