Taylor Expansion of ln(cos(x))

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The discussion revolves around the Taylor expansion of the function f(x) = ln(cos(x)). Participants are examining the behavior of the error terms represented by the big O notation in the context of the expansion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are analyzing how the error terms from the Taylor expansion combine and whether they contribute to the overall order of the expansion. Questions are raised about the implications of multiplying these error terms and their effect on the resulting big O notation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of how the error terms behave when combined. Some guidance has been offered regarding the multiplication of error terms, but there is no explicit consensus on the implications of the results.

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Participants are considering the significance of the terms in the context of Taylor expansions, particularly regarding the assumption that x is small, which influences the importance of lower-order terms.

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\biggl(-\frac{x^2}2 + \frac{x^4}{24} - \frac{x^6}{720} +\mathcal{O}(x^8)\biggr)-\frac12\biggl(-\frac{x^2}2+\frac{x^4}{24}+\mathcal{O}(x^6)\biggr)^2+\frac13\biggl(-\frac{x^2}2+\mathcal{O}(x^4)\biggr)^3 + \mathcal{O}(x^8)\\ &amp; =-\frac{x^2}2 + \frac{x^4}{24}-\frac{x^6}{720} - \frac{x^4}8 + \frac{x^6}{48} - \frac{x^6}{24} +\mathcal{O}(x^8)\\<br />

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series#First_example)

This is a Taylor expansion of f(x) = ln(cos(x)) . I just wonder what happened with the first three O's, especially with (O(x^6))^2 and (O(x^4))^3. Are they somehow incorporated in O(x^8)?
 
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Both of those go to \mathcal{O}(x^8) when you multiply out...
For example:
\left (- \frac{x^2}{2}+ \mathcal{O}(x^4}) \right)^3
multiplies out to:
-\frac {x^6}{8} + 3\frac{x^4}{4} \mathcal{O}(x^4) - 3\frac{x^2}{2} \mathcal{O}{x^8} + \mathcal{O}(x^12)
-\frac{x^6}{8} + \left( \mathcal{O}(x^8) - \mathcal{O}(x^{10}) + \mathcal{O}(x^{12}) \right)
-\frac{x^6}{8} + \mathcal{O}(x^8)
 
that's exactly what i don't get... shouldn't the result of

\mathcal{O}(x^8) - \mathcal{O}(x^{10}) + \mathcal{O}(x^{12}) \right)

be O(x^12) since that is the largest term?
 
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dobry_den said:
that's exactly what i don't get... shouldn't the result of

\mathcal{O}(x^8) - \mathcal{O}(x^{10}) + \mathcal{O}(x^{12}) \right)

be O(x^12) since that is the largest term?

Doesn't that depend on x? (In Taylor expansions x is 'small', so lower exponents are more important.)
 

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