Taylor series for a complex function

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The discussion revolves around finding the 5 jet of the function f(z) = sinh(z) / (1 + exp(z^3)) at z=0, which involves Taylor series expansions and manipulation of series terms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various attempts to multiply series for sinh(z) and the geometric series for 1/(1 - (-exp(z^3))). There are questions about the nature of the series expansions and the validity of applying certain series to the function's components.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the expansion of exp(z^3) and its implications for the series. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply series expansions and whether certain terms can be simplified or combined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that exp(z^3) is not small near z=0, which affects the applicability of certain series expansions. There is also a recognition of the need to limit the expansion to terms of order less than or equal to 5.

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Homework Statement



Find the 5 jet of the following function at z=0:

f(z) = \frac{sinhz}{1+exp(z^3)}

Homework Equations


\frac{1}{1-z}=\sum_{n=0}^\infty z^n where z=-exp(z^3)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried to multiply the series for sinhz by the series for \frac{1}{1-(-exp(z^3))} but to no avail since I end up with an infinite string of z s to the power of 3. I've also tried to simply substitute the series for sinhz and exp(z^3) directly into the fraction but cannot separate the fraction to give separate terms. Any suggestions for another method?
 
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jimmycricket said:

Homework Statement



Find the 5 jet of the following function at z=0:

What is a 5 jet?
 
Sorry I should have said the 5 jet is the expansion up to and including powers of z to the fifth power and no further.
 
jimmycricket said:
Sorry I should have said the 5 jet is the expansion up to and including powers of z to the fifth power and no further.

You can't apply the series to 1/1+exp(z^3). exp(z^3) isn't small near z=0. What does the taylor expansion of exp(z^3) look like?
 
f(z)=exp(z^3) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{z^{3n}}{n!}
 
\sum{0}^infty\z^n
 
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edit: only just learning to use latex forget that last post
 
jimmycricket said:
f(z)=exp(z^3) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{z^{3n}}{n!}

Good. Now just write the terms of order <= 5 and substitute that into the denominator.
 
\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{z^{3n}}{n!} = 1+z^3+\frac{z^6}{2}+\frac{z^9}{6}+\frac{z^{12}}{24}
 
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jimmycricket said:
\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{z^{3n}}{n!} = 1+z^3+\frac{z^6}{2}+\frac{z^9}{6}+\frac{z^{12}}{24}

Too many terms. z^6 has power greater than 5 already.
 
  • #11
1+z^3
 
  • #12
Do I now expand *\sum(-1)^n(1+z^3)^n
 
  • #13
jimmycricket said:
Do I now expand *\sum(-1)^n(1+z^3)^n

You can't again. (1+z^3) isn't a small number either. You need to substitute (1+z^3) for e^(3z) into 1+e^(3z) and THEN think about expanding.
 
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I end up with \frac{1}{2}*\frac{1}{1-(-\frac{z^3}{2})} . Now I presume I expand \frac{1}{2}\sum (\frac{-z^3}{2})^n to get \frac{1}{2}\sum(-1)^n\frac{z^{3^n}}{2^n} = \frac{1}{2}(1-\frac{z^3}{2}). Now multiplying by the series for sinhz we get (z+\frac{z^3}{6}+\frac{z^5}{120})(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{z^3}{4}) = \frac{z}{2}+\frac{z^3}{12}-\frac{z^4}{4}+\frac{z^5}{240}
 
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jimmycricket said:
I end up with \frac{1}{2}*\frac{1}{1-(-\frac{z^3}{2})} . Now I presume I expand \frac{1}{2}\sum (\frac{-z^3}{2})^n to get \frac{1}{2}\sum(-1)^n\frac{z^{3^n}}{2^n} = \frac{1}{2}(1-\frac{z^3}{2}). Now multiplying by the series for sinhz we get (z+\frac{z^3}{6}+\frac{z^5}{120})(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{z^3}{4}) = \frac{z}{2}+\frac{z^3}{12}-\frac{z^4}{4}+\frac{z^5}{240}

And that's right. Good job! Your series formula for 1/(1-z) only converges if |z|<1. You can't apply it to things that aren't small.
 
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Thank you.
 

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