Temperature dependency of the Larmor Frequency for protons in NMR

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The temperature dependency of the proton Larmor frequency in pure water is a nuanced topic within NMR spectroscopy. While the Larmor frequency itself is primarily field-dependent, small temperature-dependent shifts can occur in the NMR spectrum, particularly affecting weaker peaks due to various couplings. The Knight shift and hyperfine interactions are relevant concepts when considering these shifts, although they are more pronounced in metallic substances. Understanding these effects is crucial for accurate interpretation of NMR data, especially when isolating specific peaks like the water peak.

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  • NMR spectroscopy fundamentals
  • Understanding of Larmor frequency and its dependencies
  • Knowledge of Knight shift and hyperfine interactions
  • Familiarity with molecular couplings and resonance shifts
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This discussion is beneficial for NMR spectroscopists, researchers in molecular physics, and anyone involved in the analysis of NMR data, particularly in relation to temperature effects on resonance frequencies.

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Anybody who know something about the temperature dependency of the proton Larmor frequency say for protons in pure water? I am sure people with experience in NMR spectroscopy know. Any good articles/references?

I am not asking about:

-temperature dep of the proton density beeing proportional to exp(-hbar omega/k_B T). I.e. the population difference between spin up/down.

-temperature dep of relaxation effects (T_1 and T_2). E.g. line broadening effects.

Stupido.
 
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I thought the Larmor frequency was completely independent of temperature.
 
stupido said:
Anybody who know something about the temperature dependency of the proton Larmor frequency say for protons in pure water? I am sure people with experience in NMR spectroscopy know. Any good articles/references?

I am not asking about:

-temperature dep of the proton density beeing proportional to exp(-hbar omega/k_B T). I.e. the population difference between spin up/down.

-temperature dep of relaxation effects (T_1 and T_2). E.g. line broadening effects.

Stupido.

Outside of the two temperature dependent effects you mentioned I've not heard of anything else.
Does this mean we are going to have to redesign the MRI machines depending on whether we use them on living people or cold stiffs?? :smile:
 
Hi Creator!

I'm not very experienced in the field of MR spectroscpoy but I think I've heard that there are temperature dependent shifts between different peaks in an NMR spectrum. And that one has to take this effect into account when radiating only the water peak. (For example if one has to remove the water peak to see the more interesting weak (about 10 000 times more weak) peaks.)

The shifts in resonance frequency I'm talking about are small in the sense that typical RF bandwidths used for making MR images are much greater. For "small" temperature differences even on the spatial scale of a pixel. Presumably.
 
stupido said:
Hi Creator!

I'm not very experienced in the field of MR spectroscpoy but I think I've heard that there are temperature dependent shifts between different peaks in an NMR spectrum.

I can imagine temperature dependancy only in the lower order peaks which arise from weaker couplings of different kinds - dipolar, quadrupolar, etc. The proton Larmor frequency itself should only be field dependent.
 
stupido said:
Hi Creator!

I'm not very experienced in the field of MR spectroscpoy but I think I've heard that there are temperature dependent shifts between different peaks in an NMR spectrum. And that one has to take this effect into account when radiating only the water peak. (For example if one has to remove the water peak to see the more interesting weak (about 10 000 times more weak) peaks.)

The shifts in resonance frequency I'm talking about are small...

Thanks for the better explanation. I'm not exactly a specialist in NMR either. However, I can see how what you say is possible.
A nucleus is sensitive to various couplings and motions in the molecular environment in which it rests, and there are several types of 'shifts' in the resonance spectrum due to such variations. So I suppose I can see how it may be possible with high enough resolution to pick up differences in molecular motions..
Creator
 
Creator said:
Thanks for the better explanation. I'm not exactly a specialist in NMR either. However, I can see how what you say is possible.
A nucleus is sensitive to various couplings and motions in the molecular environment in which it rests, and there are several types of 'shifts' in the resonance spectrum due to such variations. So I suppose I can see how it may be possible with high enough resolution to pick up differences in molecular motions..
Creator
you are looking for the temperature dependence of the line shift. That is the correct term to search through engines.
 
Oooookay.. I'll stick my dirty nose into this one...

I think what you want to look for is the Knight shift. However, such effects are usually clearly observed in NMR specturm for metallic substance. So I don't know if this is relevant to the protons in water.

Zz.
 
another smart word is hiperfine interaction.
 

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