Temperature of HII Gas: Intuitive Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the temperature of HII gas, specifically addressing the apparent discrepancy between theoretical estimates based on ionization energy and observed temperatures. Participants explore the implications of different ionization processes and cooling mechanisms, seeking an intuitive understanding of these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the temperature of HII gas is typically around T~10^4 K, as indicated in Draine's book and supported by the Saha equation for hydrogen gas.
  • Others propose that a naive estimate using k*T = 13.6 eV leads to a much higher temperature of T>10^5 K, prompting questions about the source of this discrepancy.
  • One participant suggests that the discrepancy arises from misunderstanding the ionization process, which is primarily photoionization rather than thermal ionization, influenced by radiation from hot stars.
  • Another point raised is the role of cooling mechanisms in HII regions, particularly the radiative decay of metastable states of ions like OII and NII, which affects the kinetic energy of free electrons and thus the observed temperature.
  • There is a mention of the significance of electric-dipole forbidden transitions and their implications for the observable spectra of HII regions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the ionization process and its implications for temperature estimates. While some agree on the observed temperature range, there is no consensus on the reasons for the discrepancies or the mechanisms involved.

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Participants discuss assumptions related to local thermodynamic equilibrium and the conditions under which certain spectral lines can be observed, which may affect interpretations of the data.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying astrophysics, particularly in the areas of ionization processes, gas dynamics in astrophysical contexts, and the observational characteristics of HII regions.

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I have a question about the temperature of HII gas. According to Table 1.3 in Draine's book (physics of the interstellar and intergalactic medium) this temperature is T~10^4 K.
I get a similar value by using the Saha equation for a hydrogen gas.
However, a naive estimate of the same temperature could be obtained by demanding k*T = 13.6eV, and this would give T>10^5K.

My question is what produces this discrepancy? I am looking for an intuitive answer, if possible, of why the estimate using kT=ionization energy is higher by more than an order of magnitude from the actual temperature where most of the hydrogen gas becomes ionized.
 
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zviz said:
I have a question about the temperature of HII gas. According to Table 1.3 in Draine's book (physics of the interstellar and intergalactic medium) this temperature is T~10^4 K.
I get a similar value by using the Saha equation for a hydrogen gas.
However, a naive estimate of the same temperature could be obtained by demanding k*T = 13.6eV, and this would give T>10^5K.

My question is what produces this discrepancy? I am looking for an intuitive answer, if possible, of why the estimate using kT=ionization energy is higher by more than an order of magnitude from the actual temperature where most of the hydrogen gas becomes ionized.
The intuitive answer is that ion+electron is a state which, at a low density, has far bigger probability and entropy than the state where electron is bound to the ion. Or looking at the process side, atom can be ionized at any time because the electron and ion are together, whereas recombination requires the ion and electron to find one another.
Therefore, at kT=ionization energy, only the tiny fraction corresponding to the tiny volume fraction actually taken up by ions is not ionized. In order to recombine most of the ions, you need to lower the temperature by an order of magnitude till the exponential component outweighs the density component.
 
zviz said:
However, a naive estimate of the same temperature could be obtained by demanding k*T = 13.6eV, and this would give T>10^5K.

My question is what produces this discrepancy? I am looking for an intuitive answer, if possible, of why the estimate using kT=ionization energy is higher by more than an order of magnitude from the actual temperature where most of the hydrogen gas becomes ionized.
The discrepancy is the result of thinking that the ionization process is thermal. It is not.

The ionization process is photoionization. The HI is ionized by interaction with the radiation field of one or more hot stars--type O for example-- typically embedded within the gas cloud. The kinetic energy of the resultant free electrons that determines the temperature is given by the difference between the energy of the ionizing photon and the ionization potential of HI.

You have also not taken account of cooling mechanisms. HII regions are effectively cooled by radiative decay of the collisionally excited, low lying metastable states of ions such as OII, OIII, NII, and SII. The relevant transitions, which are within the visible spectral domain, are electric-dipole forbidden. However, the lifetimes of those metastable states are such that radiative decay via electric-quagrupole or magnetic-dipole allowed transitions is fast relative to collisional decay channels. Being forbidden transitions, the emitted photons are not reabsorbed by the material within the HII region allowing energy loss.

References:
1. E. J. Chaisson, "Gaseous Nebula and Their Interstellar Environment" (Chapter 7) in Frontiers of Astrophysics, E. H. Avrett, Ed., Harvard University Press 1976.
2. D. E. Osterbrock and G. J. Ferland, Astrophysics of Gaseous Nebulae and Active Galactic Nuclei 2nd Ed., University Science Books 2006
 
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First, an editorial correction to Reference 2 above. The correct title of the book by Osterbrock and Ferland is Astrophysics of Gaseous Nebulae and Active Galactic Nuclei.

[Mentor Note -- update made to Reference 2 in above post]

Second, it may be of interest to point out a pragmatic aspect of the electric-dipole forbidden transitions associated with the metastable states of OIII and NII. Both species emit within the visible spectral domain: OIII at 436.3, 495.9, and 500.7 nm; NII at 575.5, 654.8, and 658.3 nm. Those are rest-frame wavelengths. Those spectral lines can be very prominent in the observed spectra of HII regions.

Assuming effective local thermodynamic equilibrium, a free electron density that is sufficiently low to preclude collisional decay of the metastable states, and further assuming that the metastable states are not populated by radiative decay from higher excited states, the ratios of the line amplitudes provides a direct, observable measure of the nebular electron temperature.
 
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