Tension of a cable as a result of a pulse (wave)?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a wave pulse in a steel cable connected to a ski gondola and determining the tension in the cable. The speed of the pulse was successfully calculated as 38.75 m/s using the formula v = d/t. For the tension calculation, the user encountered difficulty finding the mass of the cable due to a lack of density information. It was noted that density values for steel are typically available in physics textbooks, which can be used to find the mass and subsequently calculate the tension. The conversation highlights the importance of using standard reference materials for density in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



A ski gondola is connected to the top of a hill by a steel cable of length 620 m and diamter 1.5 cm. As the gondola comes to the end of its run, it bumps into the terminal and sends a wave pulse along the cable. It is observed that it took 16 s for the pulse to return.

(a) What is the speed of the pulse
(b)What is the tension in the cable?

Homework Equations



simple velocity equation: v = d/t
density equation: p = m/v
speed of wave on a cord: v = √[(F)/(m/L)]


The Attempt at a Solution



I was sucessful with part a of the question. It's just a simple velocity equation: v = 620/16 = 38.75 s.

For the second part, I know I need to find mass, so I could plug it in the speed of wave in a cable equation. I tried to use the simple density equation since I already have information for the cross-sectional part of the cable:
m = pv
m= p (LA)→length times area
m = ?

It seems I don't have enough information to find mass because I don't have p (density)!
 
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You can find the density of steel online. It ranges from 77500 to 80500 kg/m3 depending on alloy
 
LastXdeth said:
It seems I don't have enough information to find mass because I don't have p (density)!
Many physics textbooks have a table of densities for different materials. It would be in the section of the chapter that discusses density. They probably expect you to use the value from such a table -- rather than finding it on the web, which would have some variability since there are actually different types of steel with different densities.
 
Thanks, it never came across my mind that density was a given value! I will check my textbook.
 
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