Terminal Velocity of a Cylinder Freefalling Through a Fluid

In summary, an engineer is trying to analyze the motion of a cylindrical body falling through static water with the ultimate goal of finding its velocity at a depth of 20m. The engineer has set up a spreadsheet to calculate the time derivatives of velocity, displacement, and acceleration based on the equations of motion. However, there is uncertainty about the damping factor, which affects the terminal velocity. The engineer is considering using either a drag force equation or Stoke's experiment equation, but both methods have limitations and do not provide a sensible answer. The engineer is seeking advice on the best approach to solving this problem.
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smithson1984
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Hello :)

I am an engineer and I am trying to analyse a system which basically contains a cylindrical body free-falling through a body of static water beginning with zero velocity. I am ultimately trying to find what the velocity of the object would be at a depth of 20m. In order to do this I have a spreadsheet set-up which calculates the time derivative velocity, displacement and acceleration terms at any given time.

The basic equation from which I have derived the time dependant derivatives is as follows:

Fg-Fd-Fb = m.a (1)

Where:

Fg = Bodies 'dry' weight
Fd = Drag load
Fb = Buoyancy Force

The equation can be arrange such that:

terminal velocity, v(term) = (m/b)*g (2)

where b is the damping factor.

It is this damping factor which I am uncertain of. According to Stoke's experiments with a small sphere

b = 6*pi*mu*r (3)

where mu =dynamic viscosity

However this equation does not apply to a cylindrical body is not producing sensible answers.

I have considered using the equation for drag forces to calculate this as folloiws:

Fd=0.5*rho*A*Cd*v^2 (4)

so that, damping factor b becomes:

b = 0.5*rho*A*Cd*v (5)

but by using this, the damping factor becomes velocity dependent and therefore varies with time. Therefore the terminal velocity (in accordance with eq. (2)) varies with time which doesn't make sense!

Has anybody done any similar analysis to this or know what the best approach is to take when solving such a problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated as this has had be stumped for a couple of days now!

Thanks in advance,

Ian :)
 
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There is no real reason to bring some magical damping coefficient into play, just a magical drag coefficient. Start with the force balance and think about what terminal velocity actually means in terms of the forces. Since you already know how to write expressions for each force, you ought to be able to come up with an answer fairly quickly.
 
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smithson1984 said:
Hello :)

I am an engineer and I am trying to analyse a system which basically contains a cylindrical body free-falling through a body of static water beginning with zero velocity.<snip>

This problem is extremely complex, because the cylinder can tumble or otherwise execute complex motion. I had a hard time finding a good reference, but these may be of use to you:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889974615002662
http://faculty.nps.edu/pcchu/web_paper/proceedings/wit/afm2002_chu.pdf
http://www.fast.u-psud.fr/~hulin/papers/POF_cylinder_Dangelo.pdf
 
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Thanks very much Andy. I'll have a read through these this morning. Wish me luck.

I probably should have also mentioned that I am assuming only one degree of freedom, so that the cylinder can only move in the vertical direction and cannot translate or rotate. Although this assumption doesn't really apply to a simple cylinder, what I am trying to model is offshore structure which will be weighted in such a way that rotation will be not permitted.

Cheers again.
 
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boneh3ad said:
There is no real reason to bring some magical damping coefficient into play, just a magical drag coefficient. Start with the force balance and think about what terminal velocity actually means in terms of the forces. Since you already know how to write expressions for each force, you ought to be able to come up with an answer fairly quickly.

Hi. Thanks for the response.

The approach I'm taking is the modelling it as a classical Newtonian system so that it is represented by a mass-spring-damper as follows:

F(t) = m.a = M.g + b.v + k.x (1)

where the stiffness term is assumed to be zero as there is no restoring force. At terminal velocity, the above equation becomes equal to zero because the acceleration is zero at terminal velocity so that:

0 = M.g + b.v(term) (2)

Now by rearranging this I can find the terminal velocity but I believe I do require the damping factor, b, in order to do so. Note the damping factor is not a coefficient and has units of kg/s. Hopefully that makes a bit more sense!

Thanks again :)
 
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smithson1984 said:
Thanks very much Andy. I'll have a read through these this morning. Wish me luck.

I probably should have also mentioned that I am assuming only one degree of freedom, so that the cylinder can only move in the vertical direction and cannot translate or rotate. Although this assumption doesn't really apply to a simple cylinder, what I am trying to model is offshore structure which will be weighted in such a way that rotation will be not permitted.

Cheers again.

If I understand you, the flow is perpendicular to the cylinder axis, and you are effectively treating this as a 2-D problem (fluid flow past an infinite cylinder)? Is this Stokes flow (low Reynolds number), or are you concerned with arbitrary Reynolds numbers?

The case of laminar flow around an infinite cylinder is a 'standard problem' and while more difficult than flow around a sphere, there is an analytic expression for the fluid drag per unit length:

F = (4πU)/(.5-γ-ln(2aU/8ν)), where U is the (distant) fluid velocity, γ is Euler's constant (0.577...), a the cylinder radius, and ν the kinematic viscosity of the fluid. This expression was originally derived by Oseen and is in Lamb's "Hydrodynamics". There, the full solution is derived and also generalized to flow past an ellipse. Even though you are treating this as an infinite cylinder, the endcaps can have a significant portion of the total fluid drag, and it matters if the ends are squared-off or hemispherical or some other shape.

For higher Reynolds numbers when there is flow separation, you are dealing with von Karman vortex streets and that's beyond my experience.

If, on the other hand, you are thinking about flow parallel to the cylinder axis, That is also a solved problem- it's essentially the same as flow past a flat plate and the plate is 2πa across.

Does this help?
 
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Ah, I see what you were doing now. It's unorthodox but I suppose it makes some sense. Personally, I think it is easier to just do a simple force balance:
[tex]\Sigma F = ma = F_g - F_b - F_d,[/tex]
where ##F_g## is the force of gravity, ##F_b## is the force of buoyancy, ##F_d## is the force of drag, and the positive direction is down. You obviously know that ##F_g = mg##. I would argue that it is best (since you are including buoyancy) to case everything in terms of diameter and density, so
[tex]F_g = \rho_{c}V_{c}g = \frac{\pi}{4} d^2 L \rho_{c} g,[/tex]
where ##L## is however long your cylinder is. Buoyancy is also known, and is the weight of the displaced fluid,
[tex]F_b = \frac{\pi}{4} d^2 L \rho_{f} g.[/tex]

Drag is fairly easy to estimate for a cylinder. First, though, you have to guess whether or not you are in the Stokes flow regime, or the more classical regime where drag is proportional to the square of velocity. You are almost certainly not in the Stokes regime, so you are probably safe in assuming that drag is proportional to ##v^2##, but you can check this after you solve it by calculating the Reynolds number, ##Re_d = \frac{\rho_f v d}{\mu}##, and if ##Re_d \ll 1##, then you will have to switch it up and use a Stokes drag model. I doubt this applies, though. Instead, just use
[tex]F_d = \dfrac{1}{2} \rho_f v^2 C_d A.[/tex]
For a cylinder, your relevant ##A## is just the frontal area, so ##A = Ld##. You can find reasonable values for the ##C_d## of a cylinder all over the place.

So that fills in all of your missing terms, and as you've already recognized, terminal velocity implies that ##a = 0##, so you have velocity occutring only one time in the three remaining terms. It should be fairly simple to simply rearrange the equation to solve for ##v##. That ##v## is your terminal velocity. If you are wanting to know how fast it reaches that speed, then you would have to solve it as a differential equation without zeroing out the ##a## term.
 

1. What is terminal velocity?

Terminal velocity is the maximum speed that an object can reach when falling through a fluid, such as air or water. It occurs when the upward force of drag equals the downward force of gravity.

2. How does the shape of a cylinder affect its terminal velocity?

The shape of a cylinder can greatly affect its terminal velocity. A streamlined cylinder with a pointed front and rounded back will have a lower terminal velocity compared to a cylinder with a blunt front and flat back. This is because the streamlined shape reduces the amount of drag force acting on the cylinder, allowing it to reach a higher maximum speed.

3. What factors can affect the terminal velocity of a cylinder?

The terminal velocity of a cylinder can be affected by several factors, including its shape, mass, surface area, and the density and viscosity of the fluid it is falling through. Other factors such as air temperature and pressure can also play a role in determining terminal velocity.

4. How is the terminal velocity of a cylinder calculated?

The terminal velocity of a cylinder can be calculated using the equation V = √(2mg/ρACd), where V is the terminal velocity, m is the mass of the cylinder, g is the acceleration due to gravity, ρ is the density of the fluid, A is the cross-sectional area of the cylinder, and Cd is the drag coefficient.

5. Is the terminal velocity of a cylinder affected by the height from which it is dropped?

The height from which a cylinder is dropped does not directly affect its terminal velocity. However, a higher starting height may allow the cylinder to reach its terminal velocity sooner due to the increased time and distance for acceleration. Additionally, air resistance may play a larger role at higher altitudes, which can affect the terminal velocity of the cylinder.

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