Terminology for levels of body interactivity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the terminology for theoretical concepts in rigid body dynamics and forward kinematics, specifically regarding bodies that do not interact with others in certain ways. Participants explore the implications of bodies that cannot affect or be affected by other bodies, akin to having zero or infinite mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the scientific terms for a body that cannot affect another body, suggesting it behaves as if it has zero mass.
  • The same participant also asks for a term for a body that cannot be affected by another body, proposing it behaves as if it has infinite mass.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism, stating that everything interacts with everything else and suggests dark matter as a possible example, although they do not believe it fits the definitions provided.
  • A later reply acknowledges the theoretical nature of the concepts, noting they violate physical laws but likening them to negligible forces in practical engineering contexts.
  • One participant expresses a desire to help but ultimately cannot provide a term for these bodies.
  • A participant bumps the thread, indicating a continued interest in finding contributions from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the terminology, and multiple competing views remain regarding the feasibility and definitions of the proposed concepts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by the theoretical nature of the concepts, which may not align with established physical principles. There is also a lack of commonly accepted terminology for the proposed ideas.

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Readers interested in theoretical physics, rigid body dynamics, or the exploration of unconventional concepts in mechanics may find this discussion relevant.

Martijn
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I have two simple questions:

1) What is the scientific term for "a body that cannot affect another body"?
Effectively, as if this body has a mass of zero. The body can move freely until it contacts another body, in which case it will not be able to affect the other body in any way, and thus be deflected.

And conversely:

2) What is the scientific term for "a body that cannot be affected by another body"?
Effectively, as if this body has infinite mass. The body can move freely, interactions with other bodies cannot effect this body in any way.

This all within the context of body interaction (such as collisions), specifically rigid body dynamics and forward kinematics.

I'm not actually sure there are commonly used terms for these, in which case you are free to suggest something. :smile:
 
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I've never heard of what you are talking about. As far as I know everything interacts with everything else. The only thing i can think of, is perhaps dark matter, which only interacts gravitationally as far as we know. But I don't think that fits your definitions.
 
Well, it is purely a theoretical concept, one that violates the laws of physics. But in the same way that an structural engineer ignores the gravitational pull of Jupiter, as the force is negligible for all practical purposes. So when I say a "mass of zero", I mean that the mass is negligible in the interactions and therefor ignored.

Anyway, what I am most interested in is finding an appropriate name for these types of bodies.
 
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Ah I see. I wish i could help you with that, sorry.
 
*bump* (of negligible force)

Anyone else maybe?
 

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