The Appeal of Dressing Fashionably for Men

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The discussion centers around why many men do not dress more fashionably, highlighting various perspectives on fashion, comfort, and societal expectations. A well-dressed man is often seen as attractive, yet many men express a lack of interest in maintaining a fashionable wardrobe due to the costs and effort involved. The conversation touches on the perception of what constitutes "fashionable," with some arguing that it is subjective and varies by age and context. Many participants prefer comfort and minimalism over formal attire, often opting for casual clothing like t-shirts and jeans. There is also a consensus that fit is crucial; poorly fitting clothes can detract from a person's appearance, regardless of the style. The thread concludes that while some men may dress casually, they can still look presentable with the right fit and choice of clothing, emphasizing that personal style reflects one's personality.
  • #251
is it just me or is seeing a little bit of white around the wrist where your shirt pokes out a cool look? I like it
 
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  • #252
Cyrus said:
Have to attend a dinner event tonight, snapped a quick pic of the suit:

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Try the Windsor knot. Looks way better.
 
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  • #253
tribdog said:
is it just me or is seeing a little bit of white around the wrist where your shirt pokes out a cool look? I like it

its supposed to be like that.

Dior Homme:
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Hugo Boss:
http://www.gearpatrol.com/images/hugoboss_einstein.jpg

Armani:
http://www.lifeinitaly.com/fashion/img/Armani%20suit%201.jpg



hell, i wish i could afford all of these.

yes, the shirt should be visible around the wrists. apparently it looks cool, i agree.
 
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  • #254
It's suppose to be a quarter inch at the wrists and half an inch behind the neck.

It is critical to get a shirt not only the right size, but the right arm length and neck circumference. Even if you spend $1000 a shirt, it would look like garbage if it's not the right size.

Of course the size of the jacket is even more critical.
 
  • #255
Is it possible to spend $1000 on a shirt? and if it is how can it be better than a $50 dollar shirt.
 
  • #256
JasonRox said:
It's suppose to be a quarter inch at the wrists and half an inch behind the neck.

It is critical to get a shirt not only the right size, but the right arm length and neck circumference. Even if you spend $1000 a shirt, it would look like garbage if it's not the right size.

Of course the size of the jacket is even more critical.

Ugh, jackets. The darned shoulders are never wide enough for me.
 
  • #257
tribdog said:
Is it possible to spend $1000 on a shirt? and if it is how can it be better than a $50 dollar shirt.

im sure you can spend 2000 on a shirt if you looked hard enough for it. someone explained the differences in shirts earlier... a cheap shirt won't look as good. simple as that. they billow out and are generally too big. a more expensive shirt, designer what ever youd like to call it. most of which are more slim. cut thinner and even custom shirts. like meat, cut to order. to your specifications. the prices go up, you digg? the old saying goes "you get what you pay for."
 
  • #258
offtheleft said:
im sure you can spend 2000 on a shirt if you looked hard enough for it. someone explained the differences in shirts earlier... a cheap shirt won't look as good. simple as that. they billow out and are generally too big. a more expensive shirt, designer what ever youd like to call it. most of which are more slim. cut thinner and even custom shirts. like meat, cut to order. to your specifications. the prices go up, you digg? the old saying goes "you get what you pay for."

If you buy a $1000 shirt that doesn't fit, no matter which designer, it will look like garbage.
 
  • #259
JasonRox said:
If you buy a $1000 shirt that doesn't fit, no matter which designer, it will look like garbage.

thats a given but, not the point that I am making. of course you get clothes that fit, which is why i mentioned custom clothing.
 
  • #260
Does Cyrus' suit fit? *runs and hides*
 
  • #261
doesn't fit me.
 
  • #262
Cyrus said:
Did you pay attention at all in this thread about what the guys have posted? Clearly, not. :rolleyes:

Yes, I paid attention, but I seem to realize that guys have a better chance at getting the right size, than a woman, in my experience.
 
  • #263
Monique said:
Now wouldn't it be nice if in the future you just get yourself scanned, so that you get custom-made factory items at little extra cost? I can see that happening.

That woudl be awesome. It's all up to you Monique to make it :biggrin:
 
  • #264
Kurdt said:
Does Cyrus' suit fit? *runs and hides*

I think it looks like it fits, though the white cuffs need to show more and be even, but for a quick pic, very nice.
 
  • #265
JasonRox said:
If you buy a $1000 shirt that doesn't fit, no matter which designer, it will look like garbage.

Okay, even my boyfriend's most expensive custom-made shirt didn't cost close to THAT much. :bugeye: The custom shirts USUALLY are about $150 for ones made with good quality but basic shirt material (i.e., nothing fancy, solid colors or basic patterns like stripes). So, if you're going to spend that much on a shirt, why even bother getting it off-the-rack when you could get something perfectly custom-made to your specifications? The one that I consider crazy expensive, even by his standards, cost considerably more, but was also a really unique fabric that's not your basic shirt material. Nobody you see is going to have a shirt like that. I can't really even describe the fabric, it just has some really neat properties depending on how the light hits it and the pattern on it, and is heavier weight than normal shirt fabric. He ALWAYS gets compliments when he wears it, especially from women.

I don't give much consideration to labels. I've seen plenty of ill-fitting, ugly, poorly-made clothing with designer labels stuck on them. In most stores, the only difference I see between the designer branded clothing and everything else is the price.
 
  • #266
JasonRox said:
Incorrect, short skirts look good all the time and on all frames.
Definitely NOT!

Cyrus said:
Have to attend a dinner event tonight, snapped a quick pic of the suit:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1108/pict0338fw1.jpg
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Is it just me seeing things, or are you standing on your cuffs? How high of heels do your shoes have?

I agree with Jason, go with a different knot on the tie. The one you used is for little boys...too small.
 
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  • #267
mcknia07 said:
Yes, I paid attention, but I seem to realize that guys have a better chance at getting the right size, than a woman, in my experience.
Women have more variance in body shape from person to person. Breast size and the width of the hips alone make for serious differences in size and cut of the clothes that you want. That would be the problem with standardized sizing. A woman may wear a size 4 but still have a triple D, or larger, bust creating serious size choice issues. All of the women I have known with exceptionally large breasts had a hard time with all of their tops, not just bras, and often resorted to just buying and wearing oversized sweaters.


Moonbear said:
Definitely NOT!



Is it just me seeing things, or are you standing on your cuffs? How high of heels do your shoes have?

I agree with Jason, go with a different knot on the tie. The one you used is for little boys...too small.

They are making mens shoes with much higher heels now. I have the same problem though of pant cuffs hitting the floor.

Personally I would have gone with a narrower tie. Of course I prefer solid colours for ties and a striped tie would probably look silly if it were too narrow. I have seen all of one tie with a pattern on it that I liked and I bought it. It's a dark red with subtle pattern of baroque stitchwork.
 
  • #268
Moonbear said:
Definitely NOT!



Is it just me seeing things, or are you standing on your cuffs? How high of heels do your shoes have?

I agree with Jason, go with a different knot on the tie. The one you used is for little boys...too small.

No, the pants don't have any cuffs and I'm not wearing any shoes on. (The pants are the perfect length, trust me).

The knot is full windsor, it got shifted under the collar which covered it partially.

I didn't wear a narrow tie because this was not a party, it was a conservative function.
 
  • #269
you don't have shoes on? Do you have artificial legs or are your toes all the same length? Maybe your socks are leather?
 
  • #270
tribdog said:
you don't have shoes on? Do you have artificial legs or are your toes all the same length? Maybe your socks are leather?

nope, they were just black socks.
 
  • #271
Cyrus said:
No, the pants don't have any cuffs and I'm not wearing any shoes on. (The pants are the perfect length, trust me).

I just call the bottom of any pant cuffs, not just the ones that are folded up. I know you didn't have shoes on, but it looked like the pants were so long, it was hard to imagine a typical men's shoe with a big enough heel to make that much difference. But, maybe it's just a shadow creating that illusion.
 
  • #272
wow, freaky foot cyrus. you don't mind if I call you freaky foot do you? Freaky, FF, freaky deaky feety. I'm sorry, I don't know where I'm going with this.
 
  • #273
Moonbear said:
I just call the bottom of any pant cuffs, not just the ones that are folded up. I know you didn't have shoes on, but it looked like the pants were so long, it was hard to imagine a typical men's shoe with a big enough heel to make that much difference. But, maybe it's just a shadow creating that illusion.

Mens shoes are a good half inch above the ground due to the heel.
 
  • #274
tribdog said:
wow, freaky foot cyrus. you don't mind if I call you freaky foot do you? Freaky, FF, freaky deaky feety. I'm sorry, I don't know where I'm going with this.

Hahahah, its just the way the picture came out. My toes are not all the same length.
 
  • #275
ah, you look good. I'm just playing around. and moonbear it's pretty amazing how putting on a pair of shoes makes a huge difference in making pants look better. I always think my pants are way too long then I put on my shoes and they turn out to be perfect.
 
  • #276
tribdog said:
ah, you look good. I'm just playing around. and moonbear it's pretty amazing how putting on a pair of shoes makes a huge difference in making pants look better. I always think my pants are way too long then I put on my shoes and they turn out to be perfect.

Wait until you zip up the fly!
 
  • #277
What's that have to do with anything? I don't get it...
 
  • #278
okay I am lookin for some help :)

first ill start with hair. i need to get it cut! the long hair just isn't working anymore and its becoming annoying. what types of hair styles are quite easy to do and pull off.

facial hair. my beard is getting quite gross. i thought i could last until christmas but its down right disgusting. i was thinking of doing chin straps, just not too skinny. no mustache at all! i hate it. i also don't want to look like a guido and i don't want to be clean shaved.

shoes. I am big on sneakers, not shoes. i wear semi tight pants so i don't like the big bulky shoes at all. i had a pair of sambas for a while, loved em. i might get the white classic ones. i have a pair of pumas which i love. i just got them actually. but, just one pair won't suffice at all.

what should i do.
 
  • #279
I would say cut the hair off, and make it short. (either military cut or a high 'n' tight)

Facial hair...get rid of it, lol. Side burn are ok to have.

AS for shoes...well, Pumas are very nice, they can be sporty and yet classy at the same time. You need to add a nice pair of more dressy shoes to you collection. You can never have too many pairs :biggrin: :!)
 
  • #280
mcknia07 said:
I would say cut the hair off, and make it short. (either military cut or a high 'n' tight)

Facial hair...get rid of it, lol. Side burn are ok to have.

AS for shoes...well, Pumas are very nice, they can be sporty and yet classy at the same time. You need to add a nice pair of more dressy shoes to you collection. You can never have too many pairs :biggrin: :!)

for the hair, i was thinking something along the lines of this: http://www.kjbeckett.com/mensfashionblog/uploaded_images/david_beckham_calendar_photo-783138.jpg

if i can pull it off with my hair but, as close too as i can get it.


the facial hair: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/joefolly/shave.jpg
its a little thicker than i would normally do, i actually think its OK and will probably keep doing it the way I am used too. a little thinner, more rigid and defined.


i have a bunch of shoes already lol. i have like a blue/orange/green pair of reboks, pump speed cats in black, puma romas in white, black sambas. clogs, navy and white new balances. not sure of the brands but two pairs of black dress shoes, and one pair of brown :)

probably going to get some more though. no more dress shoes though. need casual shoes.
 
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  • #281
Very cute! That is pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking. You have a very nice jaw structure as well, that makes it look even better, lol. :biggrin:
 
  • #282
mcknia07 said:
Very cute! That is pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking. You have a very nice jaw structure as well, that makes it look even better, lol. :biggrin:

why thank you :)

i got to do something with the hair though. everything i attempt the fohawk type of thing it never works. my hair is so unmanageable!
 
  • #283
Try having my hair.
 
  • #284
No fohawk...go more for the messy hair, like the other guy in the picture. But not so pointy in the front, more like all around messy, yet more flatish on the sides.
 
  • #285
mcknia07 said:
No fohawk...go more for the messy hair, like the other guy in the picture. But not so pointy in the front, more like all around messy, yet more flatish on the sides.
you have an example?
 
  • #286
Kurdt said:
Try having my hair.

whats wrong with your hair?
 
  • #287
Here is a good pic. You could even go with more height on the hair, if you wanted.
 

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  • #288
offtheleft said:
whats wrong with your hair?

Its very thick.
 
  • #289
Kurdt said:
Its very thick.

mine too lol. i killed a lot of it though :( lots and LOTS of fast food. cough*excessiveuseofahairstraightner*cough and blow drying. wearing a hat 24/7 probably helped it too.
 
  • #293
For god's sakes loose the back street boys beard offtheleft.

Your haircut is the same as Jason. It's very boy-ish.

Get a proper mans haircut from a barber.
 
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  • #294
Cyrus said:
For god's sakes loose the back street boys beard offtheleft.

is it really that bad? what you suggest?
 
  • #295
offtheleft said:
is it really that bad? what you suggest?

Yes, it's that bad. Anytime I see someone sporting that kind of beard I think to myself -...douchebag.


It's really, really, REALLY bad.

I just can't stand that beard. It's so stupid. ARgggg! (Don't ask me why, I just hate it).

Just shave it all off.
 
  • #296
Cyrus said:
Yes, it's that bad. Anytime I see someone sporting that kind of beard I think to myself -...douchebag.


It's really, really, REALLY bad.

i sometimes think the same thing, not all the time though. i really hate guidos lol.
 
  • #297
Cyrus said:
Yes, it's that bad. Anytime I see someone sporting that kind of beard I think to myself -...douchebag.


It's really, really, REALLY bad.

I just can't stand that beard. It's so stupid. ARgggg! (Don't ask me why, I just hate it).

Just shave it all off.

i can't do clean shaved. i can't keep up with it most of the time and i have really sensitive skin. if i shave ill break out like a pizza :(
 
  • #298
offtheleft said:
i can't do clean shaved. i can't keep up with it most of the time and i have really sensitive skin. if i shave ill break out like a pizza :(

Then just let it grow out to a 5 oclock shadow like miami vice after a few days and then shave it. But for the love of god, don't ever trim that back-street-boy beard like that again!

What you can do (and I do) if I don't have time is just shave my neck and under my jaw line and trim my check so it looks like I am trying to grow a beard and then cut if off a few days later. That way it doesn't look bad.

You also need to shave after you take a shower and in the direction of the 'grain' that your hair grows. If you do that when you shave it won't cut you. This is how real barbers are trained to give a shave with a straight razor.
 
  • #299
Cyrus said:
Then just let it grow out to a 5 oclock shadow like miami vice after a few days and then shave it. But for the love of god, don't ever trim that back-street-boy beard like that again!

how about a 5 o'clock shadow, and i trim it short but a full beard?

in addition to your post.

i usually do that. or it iches like hellll
 

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