The change of mass with respect to time of a rain drop falling though a cloud

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The problem involves a raindrop falling through a cloud and collecting water, with a focus on the relationship between mass, velocity, and the rate of mass change over time. The discussion centers around deriving an equation for mass accumulation and understanding the implications of constant density.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between mass accretion and the raindrop's cross-sectional area and velocity. There is an exploration of how to express the radius in terms of mass and density, as well as questions about the assumption of constant density.

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Some participants have provided insights on the relationship between mass and velocity, while others have raised questions about the assumptions made, particularly regarding the constancy of density. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants clarifying concepts and building on each other's contributions.

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There is a mention of the need to merge constants into a single proportionality constant, and a specific assumption about the density of rainwater being constant is under discussion.

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A raindrop is falling through a cloud, collecting water as it falls. If the raindrop has mass
m and velocity v, show that
mg = vdm/dt +mdv/dt.
Assume that the drop remains spherical and that the rate of accretion is proportional to the
cross-sectional area of the drop multiplied by the speed of fall. Show that this implies that
dm/dt = kvm2/3,
for some constant k. Using this equation and the assumption that the drop starts from rest
when it is infinitesimally small, find m as a function of x. Hence show that the acceleration
of the raindrop is constant and equal to g/7.


I have managed to show that mg = vdm/dt +mdv/dt easily, but I am at a lose for the second part where the question asks "Show that this implies that dm/dt = kvm2/3".
I am unsure where to begin, any help in pointing me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
 
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hi aron, the rate of accretion is the rate at which mass is being put on the drop. so the rate of accretion is \frac{dm}{dt}. The area of cross section of the sphere is \pi r^2 , where r is the radius. So we are given that

\frac{dm}{dt} = k_1 v\; \pi r^2

where k1 is just the constant of proportionality. now since the density of the drop remains constant, use that fact to write r2 in terms of density and the mass of the drop. whatever constants you encounter, just merge it and call it k.
 
Thank you, it was the last step of writing r2 in terms of the mass and density that I was missing out.
 
Hi. Sorry I know this thread has already been answered. Just one quick question: How do you know that the density of the drop remains constant?
 
Well, the density of rainwater is constant.
 
fair enough thanks.
 
post full solution after you are done.
 

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