The connection between integration and area

In summary, the conversation discussed definite integration and its definition of areas and volumes in R^2 and R^3. The question was raised whether calculating an area in R^2 using integration would give the same result as counting unit squares. It was explained that the Riemann integral is set up to approximate the region under the curve by using rectangles of finite width, thus matching the intuitive idea of area. It was also stated that the definition of the integral is explicitly designed to match the intuitive notion of area in these cases.
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My understanding is that (definite) integration defines area in R^2, volume in R^3 etc, and my question is: would calculating an area in R^2 using integration give the same answer as counting the unit squares. If so, how did they ensure to define integration in such a way as to give the same result as most people's definition?
 
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If you are thinking "Unit Squares", you are not getting the idea of integration. They used to think this way in Ancient Greece - vaguely, if we can just quantize it, we'll find the fundamental unit. This is not good enough. The area of each "piece" really is zero!

We can get most peoples' definition to match up by teaching them THE definition. There are other definitions for integration - to handle discontinuities and various other things.
 
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Poirot said:
My understanding is that (definite) integration defines area in R^2, volume in R^3 etc, and my question is: would calculating an area in R^2 using integration give the same answer as counting the unit squares. If so, how did they ensure to define integration in such a way as to give the same result as most people's definition?

The Riemann integral is set up to be the limit if it exists of the area of sets rectangles of finite width that approximate the region under the curve as the widths tend to zero. So it is to a hand-waving approximation the result of counting squares as the size of the grid goes to zero.

It is silly to ask how did they ensure this result, the definition of the integral is set up explicity to match the intuitive idea of area in those cases where the intuitive notion makes sense.

CB
 
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Thanks for the responses
 
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I can confirm that there is indeed a strong connection between integration and area. Integration is a mathematical concept that allows us to calculate the area under a curve in a given interval. This is known as definite integration and it is commonly used in mathematics, physics, and engineering to solve various problems involving area and volume.

To answer your question, yes, calculating an area in R^2 using integration would give the same answer as counting the unit squares. This is because the fundamental concept of integration is to divide a given area into smaller and smaller rectangles (or squares in this case) and then summing up their areas to get the total area. This process is essentially equivalent to counting the unit squares.

Now, you may wonder how integration was defined in such a way as to give the same result as most people's definition of area. Well, the concept of integration was developed by mathematicians over a long period of time, starting with the ancient Greeks and later refined by mathematicians such as Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz. These mathematicians were able to develop a rigorous and precise definition of integration that is consistent with our intuitive understanding of area.

In essence, integration is a powerful tool that allows us to calculate areas, volumes, and other quantities in a precise and efficient manner. Its connection to area is a fundamental aspect of mathematics and has numerous applications in various fields of science. I hope this explanation has helped to clarify the connection between integration and area.
 

1. What is integration and how is it related to the concept of area?

Integration is a mathematical concept that is used to find the area under a curve. It involves breaking up a complex shape or curve into smaller, simpler parts and summing them up to find the total area. This process is closely related to the concept of area because it allows us to calculate the area of irregular shapes that cannot be easily measured using traditional methods.

2. How does the choice of integration method affect the accuracy of the calculated area?

The choice of integration method can greatly affect the accuracy of the calculated area. There are various methods of integration, such as the trapezoidal rule, Simpson's rule, and the midpoint rule. Each method has its own strengths and weaknesses, and the accuracy of the calculated area will depend on which method is used. Generally, more complex curves or shapes will require more advanced integration methods to achieve a higher level of accuracy.

3. How is the concept of integration used in real-world applications?

The concept of integration is used in various real-world applications, such as in physics, engineering, and economics. In physics, integration is used to calculate the area under a velocity-time graph to determine the displacement of an object. In engineering, it is used to calculate the volume of complex 3D shapes. In economics, integration is used to calculate the area under a demand or supply curve to determine the total revenue or cost.

4. Can integration be used to find the area of a shape with curved boundaries?

Yes, integration can be used to find the area of a shape with curved boundaries. This is one of the main advantages of integration, as it allows us to find the area of shapes that cannot be easily measured using traditional methods. By breaking up the shape into smaller, simpler parts, we can use integration to sum up the areas of these parts and find the total area of the curved shape.

5. Are there any limitations to using integration to find the area of a shape?

While integration is a powerful tool for finding the area of complex shapes, there are some limitations to its use. One limitation is that it can only be used for continuous curves or shapes, meaning there cannot be any gaps or discontinuities. Additionally, the accuracy of the calculated area can be affected by the choice of integration method and the level of complexity of the shape. In some cases, it may be necessary to use other mathematical techniques to find the area of a shape with curved boundaries.

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