Chemistry The electrical work needed to produce a mole of lead in a chemical reaction

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The discussion centers on calculating the electrical work required to produce one mole of lead in a chemical reaction involving a lead-acid battery. Participants debate whether the electrical work is equal to the change in Gibbs Free Energy (ΔG) or if it should be calculated using enthalpy changes. One participant emphasizes that ΔG represents the energy available for work, while another suggests that the question's context relates more to thermal physics than electrochemistry. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between Gibbs Free Energy, enthalpy, and the specifics of redox reactions. Ultimately, clarity on the physical meaning of Gibbs Free Energy in this context is sought.
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Homework Statement


Consider the charging of a lead-acid batter at atmospheric pressure and room room temperature.

2PbSO4 +2H2O -> Pb + PbO2 + 4H+ + 2SO42-

How much electrical work must be provided to produce one mole of lead?

The Attempt at a Solution



We're given the values of Gibbs Free Energy and Enthalpy for each of the reactants.

I was doing a past paper for a uni exam and I came across that question. Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the electric work equal to the \DeltaG?

So Welec = Gfinal - Ginitial?

I'm fairly sure that's the case but the answer shows it calculated as
W = Hfinal - Hinitial

Again, correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that give compression/expansion work?
 
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Hello there,

I am unsure about how your solution addressed this question, but this is what I would do.

1) You need to understand this equation: ∆G = nFE0cell.

2) You can calculate ∆G for the entire reaction using tabulated values of ∆G for each reactant. That is, ∆G for the reaction = ∆G products - ∆G reactants.

3) The chemical equation is in fact a redox equation. Find the number of electrons transferred in that equation to determine the value of n for the above equation.

4) Now that you know ∆G, n, and F (This is Faraday's constant, which can be found online or in your textbook), you can find E0cell by rearranging the above equation.

I hope that this helps! Feel free to write back!
 
Thanks for the reply.

Not sure why my topic was moved here though because the question came up in a Thermal Physics course, so we're not particularly interested in electron transfer or what have you.

We were given the values of Gibbs Free Energy and Enthalpy - the change was easily calculated. My question was more a conceptual one - namely, what exactly a change in the Gibbs Free Energy means physically. I'm now confident that it is the change in electrical work (or any work that isn't compression/expansion) and that the solution to the exam must have been incorrect.
 
Hello there,

Unfortunately, I'm not an expert in the area of thermal physics. I have always interpreted Gibbs Free Energy as the amount of energy available to do work in a system.

Does that help?
 
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