The Energy of Railgun's projectile

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The discussion revolves around the energy conversion in a railgun, specifically focusing on calculating the projectile's speed and kinetic energy based on the electrical energy stored in capacitors. Participants explore theoretical aspects, practical challenges, and energy losses in the system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about calculating the projectile's speed and kinetic energy using the energy stored in capacitors, noting the projectile's mass and rail height.
  • Another participant suggests that while formulas for energy conversion exist, they would likely overestimate the actual kinetic energy due to inefficiencies.
  • A participant expresses concern about energy losses, asking how to quantify these losses, including friction and other factors, while noting an estimated electrical energy of 54.45J.
  • It is mentioned that railguns are inefficient, with significant energy lost as heat due to eddy currents, and measuring the muzzle velocity is recommended for determining kinetic energy accurately.
  • Some participants reference other homemade railgun projects available online, indicating variability in energy outputs, with one example cited as having 27,000 joules of energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the inefficiencies of railguns and the challenges in calculating precise kinetic energy due to energy losses. However, there is no consensus on the exact methods to quantify these losses or the expected kinetic energy output.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of accurately simulating the railgun setup and the various factors that contribute to energy loss, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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I'm making a simple railgun.
and I'll charge capacitors(330v, 1000uF) for railgun's power source.
but I just have a question. the railgun's projectile is about 20g, and rail is about 20cm(height)
how can I get the projectile's speed(in end of the rail)?
or projectile's kinetic energy?
(don't mind something else : frictional force or etc. just Electrical Energy to Kinetic Energy)
somebody help me :)
 
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If you could convert all the electric energy to kinetic energy, you could just look up the formulas for energy stored in capacitors and for kinetic energy, and solve for speed and kinetic energy. This will vastly overestimate the actual result, however, and getting a precise estimate is really challenging.
 
mfb said:
If you could convert all the electric energy to kinetic energy, you could just look up the formulas for energy stored in capacitors and for kinetic energy, and solve for speed and kinetic energy. This will vastly overestimate the actual result, however, and getting a precise estimate is really challenging.
Then, How can I get a losing energy(frictional or else other)?
In my calculation, the charged energy is about 54.45J(Elec.)
And according to your reply, the projectile's kinetic energy is very small. right?
My purpose : I just thinking about just (kinetic energy, projectile)10J or over.
 
Yongho Ahn said:
Then, How can I get a losing energy(frictional or else other)?
With a detailed simulation of your setup, which is probably beyond the scope of the project.
 
Yongho Ahn said:
Then, How can I get a losing energy(frictional or else other)?

You can also check the numerous other home made railgun projects, many of which are documented on Youtube.



Note that the energy of that railgun was 27,000 joules.
 
anorlunda said:
You can also check the numerous other home made railgun projects, many of which are documented on Youtube.
Looks kinda dangerous to me... :wink:
 
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Rail guns are inefficient. Lots of energy ends up heating various components through eddy currents and the like.

Your best bet is to measure the muzzle velocity. Then you will know the exact kinetic energy.

To do this you will need a chronograph. They sell for about $150, or you could build your own. Building your own would be both more useful and safer than a railgun.
 
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