The hilarious phyiscs of Iron Man

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The discussion centers on the physics of Iron Man's Arc Reactor, particularly the calculations related to its magnetic field and power output. A calculation suggests that if the reactor produced 3 gigawatts, it would generate a magnetic field of 2.4 Teslas, raising questions about its impact on iron particles in the blood. Participants debate the feasibility of using magnetic fields for blood flow, with references to magnetohydrodynamic principles and the limitations of such a system. The conversation also touches on the fictional nature of Iron Man's technology, emphasizing the implausibility of the physics involved. Ultimately, the thread highlights the blend of humor and skepticism regarding the scientific accuracy of superhero mechanics.
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(skip this paragraph if you just want the math) I had some free time today, so I thought I'd toy with the impossible hilarity of the Arc Reactor from the Iron Man films. My first line of calculation was on the magnetic field that would be generated if 1/10th of the power output (3 gigawatts!) were to travel through the length of wire coming out of the generator.

Math:
P= 3x10^8 watts
V* = 250 V

P=IV --> P/V=I --> (3x10^8 watts)/(250 V) --> 1,200,000 Amps

I= 1,200,000 Amps
R**= .05 m

B= UiI/2PiR = (4π×10−7 (NA^-2))(1,200,000 A)/(2π(.05m))
B= 2.4 Teslas

*(I chose this number from the voltage of an industrial electromagnet)
**(roughly the distance to his heart)

Now assuming this math is correct so far, how could I measure the magnetic force on the iron particles in the blood? The volume of the heart is .28 M^3 and there is ~160 grams of iron per liter, meaning there's 44.8 grams finely dispersed in solution. My guess is there's a very simple equation to figure this out, but as of now I don't know of any.
 
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WOW, 120 some views and no comments......

Enlighten those of us who can't remember the "Arc Reactor" details.

This is the thing on his chest, it inductively pumps blood, because of his damaged heart?

"If" movement of blood through the use of magnetic fields is the question, here are some thoughts of mine.

1. Research the "floating frog" in the static magnetic field.

2. Iron may not be the primary component causing magnetic field induced blood flow, blood is salty as I recall. Here is another approach, Magnetohydrodynamic drive,

"An electric current is passed through seawater in the presence of an intense magnetic field, which interacts with the magnetic field of the current through the water. Functionally, the seawater is then the moving, conductive part of an electric motor. Pushing the water out the back accelerates the vehicle in the forward direction":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_drive

Perhaps these thoughts will get this thread moving......
 
Perhaps it has 3GW potential but he can control how many watts it is generating.

jmatejka,

He is just using the magnet to keep the iron shavings from flowing into his heart, not to pump any blood.
 
WOW, 120 some views and no comments......


You mean superheros are not based on real physics? I'm shocked.
 
stevenb said:
You mean superheros are not based on real physics? I'm shocked.

No, just shocked at lack of effort to try and apply some "real" Physics, or address his calculations positively or negetively.
 
LostConjugate said:
Perhaps it has 3GW potential but he can control how many watts it is generating.

jmatejka,

He is just using the magnet to keep the iron shavings from flowing into his heart, not to pump any blood.

Thanks for clarification.
 
jmatejka said:
No, just shocked at lack of effort to try and apply some "real" Physics, or address his calculations positively or negetively.

Well, I guess I would have to address them negatively, assuming I understand the logic put forth.

A current of 1.2 MAmps is going to instantly vaporize any conductor, and kill anyone in direct contact with it. Hence, the steady state current is zero, the magnetic field is zero, the force on the iron is zero, and our superhero is dead.

Well OK, he's a super hero, so he won't be directly killed, but will only die when his Achilles heel is exposed, as a direct result of the system failure.
 
stevenb said:
Well OK, he's a super hero, so he won't be directly killed, but will only die when his Achilles heel is exposed, as a direct result of the system failure.

Actually there's nothing special about Iron Man - he doesn't have any super powers. The only thing that makes him a super hero is his magic metal suit.

I had to laugh when I saw the second film and he made an ad hoc particle accelerator in his basement and created a new element. As you do.
 
Turtle492 said:
I had to laugh when I saw the second film and he made an ad hoc particle accelerator in his basement and created a new element. As you do.

You've never done that?
 
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LostConjugate said:
You've never done that?

Sadly no. It's on my to-do list though.
 
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It's a comic book character.

Stop being sad.
 
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jmatejka said:
Enlighten those of us who can't remember the "Arc Reactor" details.

This is the thing on his chest, it inductively pumps blood, because of his damaged heart?

Well, I don't know if they've changed it for the movie but, originally, the device simply magnetically stopped a piece of shrapnel from penetrating his heart. There was nothing about induction pumping.

Stark tripped a booby trap and a piece of shrapnel was lodged in his chest. ... the shrapnel would penetrate his heart and kill him. Wong-Chu offered Stark at deal: if he built the Communist a powerful weapon, want to allow Stark to undergo an operation to save his life.

The armor contained a pacemaker like device which enables Stark's heart to keep beating after the shrapnel entered it.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ironman.htm
 
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