The Internet - Impossible to Concentrate

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The discussion centers around the challenge of maintaining focus while studying or working on a computer, particularly due to the distractions of the internet. Participants share experiences of losing productivity to online diversions, such as YouTube and social media, and suggest that this is a common issue exacerbated by the ease of access to information online. Several strategies are proposed to combat these distractions, including separating work and leisure spaces, creating structured timetables with rewards, and using apps to block distracting websites. The importance of finding a conducive study environment, like a library, is emphasized, as well as the potential benefits of using a smartphone for quick searches to avoid the temptations of a computer. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for self-discipline and effective time management to improve productivity in the digital age.
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I love the internet, but I can't concentrate on working because of it!

I sit down at the desk (which is where the computer is), open my book and try to get something done. As I'm reading, if I need further clarification on something I'll look it up, which is where the problem lies. I get so easily distracted, as soon as I open Google Chrome, I'll run a search on whatever it is I need, but I always digress.

An example: The other day I was studying for a test on electric fields, as I looked up a topic, it brought me to a YouTube video, then I see interesting videos in the "recommended" area. So I end up going on a thirty minute long adventure.

I'm not the only one with this problem, right? Any tips on how to control my internet impulsions?

If I had to estimate the productivity loss due to Skype, YouTube... and Physics Forum, I'd say I lose 40% of what I could have gotten done.
 
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Astrum said:
...I sit down at the desk (which is where the computer is)...

There's your problem.
 
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Enter all of your site URLs...except Physicsforums.com. :approve:
 
When I was little, we would have homework where we would need to look up dictionary definitions for words. It would take me hours. I was using a hardcover dictionary. You know, a book. I would look up a word on my homework list, then see another word, and have to read it's definition, which would lead to reading about another word, and 30 minutes later, I'd finally go back to my homework list and it would start all over again. So it's not the internet that's to blame.
 
Evo said:
When I was little, we would have homework where we would need to look up dictionary definitions for words. It would take me hours. I was using a hardcover dictionary. You know, a book. I would look up a word on my homework list, then see another word, and have to read it's definition, which would lead to reading about another word, and 30 minutes later, I'd finally go back to my homework list and it would start all over again. So it's not the internet that's to blame.

Yes, it's an old problem, but with a modern twist.

I think I may have to move to another spot, one away from the computer. But that still leaves a problem of space. The computer is on a huge desk, so there's plenty of room for book, papers, calculator and anything else I need. If I go to another room, it brings a whole new set of problems.

The kitchen island (which has plenty of space for working) is right in the kitchen, which means there will be even more distractions due to family members running about. The office has always been a good place for working aside for the computer.
 
Astrum said:
Yes, it's an old problem, but with a modern twist.

I think I may have to move to another spot, one away from the computer. But that still leaves a problem of space. The computer is on a huge desk, so there's plenty of room for book, papers, calculator and anything else I need. If I go to another room, it brings a whole new set of problems.

The kitchen island (which has plenty of space for working) is right in the kitchen, which means there will be even more distractions due to family members running about. The office has always been a good place for working aside for the computer.
Yeah, your problem is that you have an inquisitive mind. :smile:
 
I understand that it's difficult to work on a computer with so many distractions but there are a few things you can do to make it easier:

1) Do NOT work and play in the same place. At my home I browse PF, YouTube, watch TV etc in either the living room or my bedroom. When it's time to work the laptop and I move to the dinning or living room. This really helps get you into the correct work/leisure mind sets. You can even leave the house if you're finding it to hard, try going to a library.

2) Get in the habit of making timetables that not only set times for work but also rewards. For instance: work on problem X 9am-11am. 11am-11:30am make a drink and watch a few videos. 11:30am start working on problem Y. This helps with the above by reinforcing the separation between work and leisure as well as prompting you to work by getting you into the habit of rewards for work.

3) If you really can't manage the temptation then get a chrome app like stay focused. It allows you to block certain sites for certain preset times and won't let you back on without a fight.

4) Get a friend to help you. It's easy if you have one that is studying too. You can keep track of each other by regularly asking how the work is going, how much you got done that day etc. It sounds simple but it helps me sometimes to know that someone else is going to ask me for my work, even though they aren't actually going to read it. It simulates deadlines.
 
I think those of us afflicted with "the curse of creativity" need a twelve step program.

A good friend of mine traded his PC for a small Evinrude and bought his wife a Macintosh.
He reported it immediately improved his quality of life at least an order of magnitude.

I'm after a small lathe myself...

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Evo said:
I was using a hardcover dictionary. You know, a book. I would look up a word on my homework list, then see another word, and have to read it's definition, which would lead to reading about another word...

So it's not the internet that's to blame.

There are two big differences between that and the OP's problem:
(1) everything (well almost everything!) in your book was factually correct.
(2) your book didn't have videos of cats.
:biggrin:
 
  • #11
Ryan_m_b said:
3) If you really can't manage the temptation then get a chrome app like stay focused. It allows you to block certain sites for certain preset times and won't let you back on without a fight.
Dang. That's a much better solution than mine.
 
  • #12
Evo said:
When I was little, we would have homework where we would need to look up dictionary definitions for words. It would take me hours. I was using a hardcover dictionary. You know, a book. I would look up a word on my homework list, then see another word, and have to read it's definition, which would lead to reading about another word, and 30 minutes later, I'd finally go back to my homework list and it would start all over again. So it's not the internet that's to blame.

Got a chuckle over that one Evo ... used to do the same thing.
 
  • #13
I rediscovered the library recently. Escaping these digital distractions is essential for success. The only problem is there are so many books there! I'll be doing diamond push ups during a Calculus study break and see a book about Diamond Geometry sitting on the shelf next to me. Fortunately, I'm completely in love with calculus and was able to restrain myself from flying off on that tangent plane. Talking about it gets me all... I got to go do stuff.
 
  • #14
AlephZero said:
There are two big differences between that and the OP's problem:
(1) everything (well almost everything!) in your book was factually correct.
(2) your book didn't have videos of cats.
:biggrin:
:smile:
 
  • #15
Evo said:
When I was little, we would have homework where we would need to look up dictionary definitions for words. It would take me hours. I was using a hardcover dictionary. You know, a book. I would look up a word on my homework list, then see another word, and have to read it's definition, which would lead to reading about another word, and 30 minutes later, I'd finally go back to my homework list and it would start all over again. So it's not the internet that's to blame.

I could lose hours looking at a dictionary when I was a kid! Probably still can :-p. And an encyclopedia? It was the internet of my childhood.

I bet lots of PFers read encyclopedias and dictionaries when we were kids.
 
  • #16
lisab said:
I could lose hours looking at a dictionary when I was a kid! Probably still can :-p. And an encyclopedia? It was the internet of my childhood.

I bet lots of PFers read encyclopedias and dictionaries when we were kids.
I'm so thankful that my parents bought me these.

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  • #18
Evo said:
Yeah, your problem is that you have an inquisitive mind. :smile:

It's both an advantage and a problem, often at the same time :biggrin:
Ryan_m_b said:
I understand that it's difficult to work on a computer with so many distractions but there are a few things you can do to make it easier:

1) Do NOT work and play in the same place. At my home I browse PF, YouTube, watch TV etc in either the living room or my bedroom. When it's time to work the laptop and I move to the dinning or living room. This really helps get you into the correct work/leisure mind sets. You can even leave the house if you're finding it to hard, try going to a library.

2) Get in the habit of making timetables that not only set times for work but also rewards. For instance: work on problem X 9am-11am. 11am-11:30am make a drink and watch a few videos. 11:30am start working on problem Y. This helps with the above by reinforcing the separation between work and leisure as well as prompting you to work by getting you into the habit of rewards for work.

3) If you really can't manage the temptation then get a chrome app like stay focused. It allows you to block certain sites for certain preset times and won't let you back on without a fight.

I'll give this a shot, giving my self periodic breaks while using that chrome app (which by the way is great!). We'll see how it works out over the next few days.

Unfortunately, I only have one computer to use, so I'm stuck working/playing on the same computer, at least for the present.
 
  • #19
I recently found an app for Macs called 'SelfControl' which let's you block certain websites for a certain amount of time (up to a day). Even if you restart your computer, you'll still be blocked until the timer runs out.

The problem I still have is that there's so many videos and saved webpages on my computer that I usually just procrastinate by reading/watching those!
 
  • #20
It seems to me that the OP has a self-control and time management issue.

If you're actually serious about it and want to improve your grades and you're not just here to rant, then I have two tips:

1) Go to the library. Go to the quiet study area where there is no talking. Just try it once and you will see how productive you can be.
2) Follow this man's blog/book: http://calnewport.com/blog/about/ http://calnewport.com/books/howtobecome.html

Following these two tips will guarantee an increase in grades and more efficient studying.
 
  • #21
At one point I wrote a couple shell scripts to set/unset certain websites to resolve to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts.
 
  • #22
Practice doing work in a separate place from where you do leisurely activities. Sounds like a really stale strategy, but it has helped me. I had the exact problem you do. Even on-topic digression is bad when you can't afford to do it. So painful!

Also, I started working in a study hall with computers that are REALLY bland, screens sometimes poorly lit, and a little slow. The experience is far less attractive and makes me want to get limit my time there. Only good for good ol' word processor and powerpoint jobs. Stay strong! It's the battle of our generation! :D

Edit - Oh and one more thing. If you have a smart phone, try and do what ever browsing you can on it, not the computer. If your phone is like mine, and probably most others', then internet browsing is likely still not as convenient and easy to do as it is on the computer.I find it's cumbersomeness has helped as a deterrent from getting too side-tracked. So try and make a rule perhaps to use your phone when you can to look up necessary things so you're not going near chrome.
 
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  • #23
ChiralWaltz said:
The only problem is there are so many books there!
When I'm at the library, my breaks consist of me sitting and observing my surroundings. This has led to my interest being captured by an appealing book on occasion. One of the times, I read a rather extensive introduction to a biography on Leonardo da Vinci. I learned nothing of da Vinci's life, but instead read what the introduction was composed of; the author's personal philosophy as to how we should examine the importance of any given dynamic figure of history, and to what extent we should criticize their lives and plague our discussions with "what if's" regarding their decisions or lack of action. The guy was a brilliant thinker (the author, not da Vinci, although I'm sure he was smart too :smile:).

lisab said:
I could lose hours looking at a dictionary when I was a kid! Probably still can :-p. And an encyclopedia? It was the internet of my childhood.

I bet lots of PFers read encyclopedias and dictionaries when we were kids.

Books about volcanoes, actually, but you're close. And I have always been more fascinated with thesauri than dictionaries, because I enjoy seeing the connectivity and relations between words more than their definitions alone.
 
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