The originator of magnetic helicity?

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The discussion revolves around the origins of the concept of magnetic helicity, exploring historical contributions and connections to various figures in mathematics and physics. Participants reference specific papers and texts while questioning the terminology and implications of magnetic helicity, including its potential relationship to perpetual energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the originator of magnetic helicity, suggesting figures like Gauss and Woltjer, and seeks access to Woltjer's 1958 paper.
  • Another participant asserts that Gauss was the originator, though questions whether he specifically referred to it as "magnetic."
  • A participant mentions the need to reference Epple's 1998 article, which discusses Gauss's contributions and the context of his work related to electromagnetic theory.
  • Discussion includes a detailed examination of Gauss's work on the orbits of asteroids and how it may relate to the concept of linking invariants in electromagnetism.
  • One participant expresses interest in applying the concept of linked curves to quantum mechanics, seeking mathematical tools relevant to quantum mass or magnetic monopoles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on who originally coined the term "magnetic helicity," and there are differing views on Gauss's contributions and terminology. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the historical attribution of the concept.

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There are references to specific papers and historical contexts that may not be fully accessible to all participants, and discussions about the implications of magnetic helicity in different domains (celestial vs. quantum) introduce additional complexity.

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Readers interested in the historical development of concepts in electromagnetism, the mathematical foundations of magnetic helicity, and its applications in both classical and quantum physics may find this discussion relevant.

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Who is the person that started the concept of magnetic helicity? Is it Gauss? Is it Woltjer? I was trying to obtain a copy of Woltjer's paper of 1958 Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 44 480. Can anybody help me get a copy of this paper? I did purchased a paper by Mitchell A. Berger called "Introduction to magnetic helicity," Plasma Phys. Control. Fusion 41 (1999) B167-B175.

I first saw the concept in the book by Arnab Rai Choudhuri called "The Physics of Fluids and Plasma, an introduction for Astrophysicists."

Is the idea of magnetic helicity connected to some form of perpetual energy?
 
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I believe it was Gauss, way back in the early 1800s.
 
Turbo-1,

Thanks. But did he called it magnetic? I think I need to get Epple M 1998 Math. Intelligencer 20 45 as mentioned by Berger.
 
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Turbo-1,

Thanks. But did he called it magnetic? I think I need to get Epple M 1998 Math. Intelligencer 20 45 as mentioned by Berger.

I have this issue of the Mathematical Intelligencer (Winter 1998), and Moriz Epple's article is entitled Orbits of Asteroids, a Braid, and the First Link Invariant. Epple quotes an integral formula for the intertwinings of two curves in three dimensional space, leading to a number that counts the number of intertwinings and is insensitive to interchange of the curves. This statement, without proof, was from a fragment found among Gauss' paper after his death, and his editor published it with his electromagnetic researches, which he did with Weber.

Epple is concerned to uncover Gauss' path to this result, and he first reviews its understanding as electromagnetic in the nineteenth century by such figures as Moebius, Maxwell and Tait. Epple concedes the relevance of the invariant to electromagnetism but suggests a second way that Gauss might have been led to it; the orbits of asteroids. Gauss had been the one who calculated the orbit of the first discovered asteroid, Ceres, in 1801. In 1804 he published a paper on the determination of the part of the sky in which a newly discovered planet or asteroid might be expected to appear. Epple says; "Published in an astronomical journal, the treatise addressed, at the same time, issues of practical astronomy, such as recent observational data, and the making of star maps, and mathematical topics in geometry, differential equations, and geometria situs{now called topology}". Gauss says that if the orbit of the body is inside or outside the Earth's orbit, you get a definite region of the celestial sphere where the body is restricted to appear. But if the orbits are linked, the body might appear anywhere in the celestial sphere. Epple works through the math in this paper and shows that you can interpolate the linking integral into an argument where Gauss, being Gauss, declines to show his work. So that he may have come upon the link invariant in discussing the paths of heavenly bodies through the sky.
 
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selfAdjoint,

Thanks. You have given me the most informative and clearest discussions of the invariance of linked curves so far. But if I have to apply it into the quantum domain instead of celestial domain, I am hoping for some mathematical tools that can describe quantum of mass or magnetic monopole or Higgs boson. Thanks again. Much obliged.
 

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