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The discussion centers on the belief that the New Orleans disaster, particularly during Hurricane Katrina, was manipulated by the government to study public response to a crisis and enforce control. Key points include claims that FEMA denied aid, cut police lines, and restricted media access, suggesting a deliberate orchestration of chaos. Participants argue that the government was aware of the levee's vulnerability and failed to respond adequately, viewing the situation as a potential psychological operation (psyop) to observe citizen behavior under duress. Reports of individuals being confined in the Superdome and the chaotic conditions there are debated, with some asserting that people were effectively trapped while others argue they were not forcibly detained. The conversation also touches on historical government negligence regarding disaster preparedness and funding, with references to past floods and the inadequacies of FEMA's response. Overall, the thread reflects a deep skepticism about government intentions and the management of the crisis, with calls for further investigation into the events surrounding the disaster.
  • #61
The federal act came about because the states wanted it.

When Loren McIntyre, South American traveler and explorer, asked a Mayoruna Indian where the source of the Amazon River was located, the Indian pointed skyward to the clouds. Advocates of weather modification likewise look to the clouds as a source of water to augment current supplies.

http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/arroyo/061wthr.html
 
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  • #62
edward said:
The federal act came about because the states wanted it.



http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/arroyo/061wthr.html

yes, but the uses of weather as a weapon is more appealing to american budget- I am going to venture that guess. Theres no radiation, but destruction is incredible, not as bad as a nuclear detonation but if the destruction in new orleans was the size of great britain...its a serious weapon indeed.
 
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  • #63
Smurf said:
Oddly enough I can't find it on any official government sites (kind of predictable, they don't want this getting out)

I'm finding it rather easily on all the usual congressional activities sites...
 
  • #64
rachmaninoff said:
Just found this:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/hurricane/
:confused:

How can you be confused?

Instead, please visit the USA Freedom Corps website at usafreedomcorps.gov for information on ways you can assist your fellow Americans in need during this time.

Do you think the White House has the means to have thousands of fedex boxes full of clothing coming into its mail rooms?
 
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  • #65
oldunion said:
Russ, there is an act to form a division in the government for developing weather control.
Ok, that's nice... so what?
HAARP manipulates the atmosphere...
No, HAARP does not manipulate the atmosphere.
doesnt anyone find it strange that there is an act, a legal group is trying to be formed for...weather control. this is not a sci fi movie, and i don't see any way to scrutinize that.
No, why would that be strange? If it's doable (people have mentioned cloud seeding), it seems like something that should be researched. What are you suggesting...?
 
  • #66
Pengwuino said:
I'm finding it rather easily on all the usual congressional activities sites...
... Do share
 
  • #67
http://thomas.loc.gov/

I love that site.

And if your a God, wouldn't you have already known what site I went to! :mad: :mad:
 
  • #68
Pengwuino said:
http://thomas.loc.gov/

I love that site.
That's odd, it wasn't there last time I checked

And if your a God, wouldn't you have already known what site I went to! :mad: :mad:
You bastard! You momentarily removed it from existence to try to make people lose belief in me! (that makes you the evil god)
 
  • #69
Smurf said:
That's odd, it wasn't there last time I checked


You bastard! You momentarily removed it from existence to try to make people lose belief in me! (that makes you the evil god)

ha, bow down to my power! :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
 
  • #70
However likely the fact that this may be a conspiracy, that wasnt my goal in this thread to prove it. I wanted to show that the government had such control over the situation that they could manipulate each factor for their goal-which is as yet unknown unless shearly for the purpose of gathering information on societal reactions in times of chaos. here is some information i found on another forum, its not etched-in-stone evidence but its something good.

Originally posted by Sinister Dick Cheney

Don't take Hal Turner's word for it just listen to the evacuees explain it:

Raw transcript of comments by NOLA evacuee : "The 17th street levee was bombed by the Army Corps of Engineers to save the more valuable real estate in the city... to keep the French Quarter protected, the ninth ward was sacrificed... people are afraid to speak out... everyone who was near there heard the bombings... they bombed seven times. That’s why they didn’t fix the levees... 20 feet of water. Gators. People dying in water. They let the parishes go, not the city center. Tourist trap was saved over human life. A six year old girl was raped in here.. 9 year old boy killed. A man in the shower beaten. No hot food. No help for elderly."

11:22 Now I’m speaking to someone else, another woman, who says some people report having witnessed "bomb sounds," believe 17th street levee and others were blown up to manage water flow and protect more valuable portions of real estate.

Evacuee: "They blew the levee to save the city..." Saying a barge broke the levee. She is from St. Bernard Parish. "More expensive places were saved at the expense of the neighborhoods that aren’t as valuable... Rebuilding Bourbon Street matters more to the government... that’s what mattered to Governor Blanco..."



Originally posted by Adolf Bush
Sunday, September 11, 2005

VIDEO: Earwitness tells ABC explosives blew Industrial Canal levee
Total411.info has obtained video of an ABC News report featuring an earwitness to explosives used to destroy the Industrial Canal in New Orleans. Here's the video, and here's the transcript:

DAVID MUIR, ABC NEWS: This is the actual levee that runs along the canal on the eastern side of the city. And when the hurricane hit, the water came through at such force, it was apparently too much. You can see the massive breach here, and when you look around the corner you can see what the water did to the Lower Ninth Ward. It compleetley destoryed neighborhoods.

JOE EDWARDS, JR., 9TH WARD RESIDENT: I heard something go BOOM!

MUIR: Joe Edwards rushed to get himself and as many neighbors as possible into his truck. They drove to this bridge, where they've been living ever since

EDWARDS: My house broke in half. My mother's house just disintegrated. It was a brick house. All the houses down there floated down the street like somebody's guiding 'em

MUIR: Was it solely the water that broke the levee, or was it the force of this barge that now sits where homes once did? Joe Edwards says neither. People are so bitter, so disenfranchised in this neighborhood, they actually think the city did it, blowing up the levee to save richer neighborhoods like the French Quarter.

MUIR: So you're convinced . . .

EDWARDS: I know this happened!

MUIR: . . . they broke the levee on purpose?

EDWARDS: They blew it!

MUIR: New Orleans' mayor says there's no credence to this.

NEW ORLEANS MAYOR RAY NAGIN: That storm was so powerful and it pushed so much water, there's no way anyone could have calculated what levee to dynamite to have the kind of impact to save the French Quarter.

MUIR: An LSU expert who looked at the video today says, while the barge may have caused it, it was most likely the sheer force of the water that brought the levee along the Lower Ninth Ward down.
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(NOTE: It is not clear at all that blowing the Industrial Canal could have "saved" the Quarter, or that the Quarter was in danger at all.)




Russ: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=haarp+manipulates+atmosphere

Originally posted by Zorglub

"There are a lot of lessons we want to learn out of this process in terms of what works," Cheney said.

"I think we are in fact on our way to getting on top of the whole Katrina exercise," he said, but added, "we've got a lot of work ahead of us obviously."

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...082359_RTRUKOC_0_US-CHENEY.xml&archived=False
 
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  • #71
oldunion said:
Originally posted by Adolf Bush
Sunday, September 11, 2005

VIDEO: Earwitness tells ABC explosives blew Industrial Canal levee
I don't think that too many people, even in the military, can tell the difference between the sound a claymore makes and the sound a transformer makes when it blows. ...bring it...
:zzz:
 
  • #72
This is almost to bad not to be planned.

I think it could be an experiment because of the execution of such poorly timed responses, the cutting og communication lines among true responders, the reprimands of military personel who gave aid, and this goes on and on. Why? There was a natural disaster there. The people need help! Why the obstructions to this aid?

http://www.counterpunch.com/mckinney09122005.html (REP. C. McKinney)
http://www.counterpunch.com/glahn09122005.html
http://www.counterpunch.com/selfa09092005.html

All of that incompetence fairly screams that there could be an ulterior motive behind it.
And to any who would claim Counterpunch isn't credible ... that's a load of malarky, It's just a good source to get a synopsis of the available data. Funny thing is - the statements have been born out by facts from various sources. :frown:
 
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