Engineering The problems about power factor changed in RCL circuit, help~

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The discussion focuses on analyzing power factor changes in an RCL circuit with given values for resistance, inductance, and supply voltage. Initial calculations show a power factor of 0.467, and after adding a capacitor, the power factor is adjusted to 0.8. Participants express confusion over discrepancies in reactance calculations using different methods, particularly regarding the values for capacitive reactance and total reactive power. Clarifications are sought on the correct approach to finding capacitance and the implications of leading versus lagging power factors. The conversation emphasizes the importance of consistent methodology in circuit analysis to avoid conflicting results.
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R = 100Ω, L=0.5H, supply voltage vs(t) = 12sin(377t) in Figure 1a

XL = wL =377(0.5) = 188.5Ω
vrms = 8.485∠0
Z=213.38∠62.05 Ω
I = 8.485∠0/ 213.38∠62.05 = 0.0398∠-62.05 A
VR = 3.98∠-62.05 V
VL = 7.502∠27.95 V
PT = 0.03982(100) = 0.158W
QT = QL = 0.299 VAR
ST = 0.338∠62.05 VA
Fp = 0.467a capacitor is added to the circuit in series in figure 1b, and Fp = 1
S=0.158∠0
Q=0
PT=0.0346W
I=0.0186A
Z=455.7Ω
C=14.1μF

If Fp in figure 1b is equal to 0.8
Q=0.02595VAR(ind)
I=0.0051∠36.87 A
Z=1662.82∠-36.87 Ω

For the capacitance of here, I'm so interrogative.

If I used the method of QT =QL - Qc
Qc = 0.0049-0.02595 = -0.02105VAR
Xc=809.3Ω
But I used the method of Vs=Vc+VR+VL
Vc = 8.485-0.0051(100)-0.0051(188.5)=7.01V
Xc=1374.5Ω

Why the answers are different when I used these two methods, and it's correct all of my above answers? If some are wrong, please feel free to indicated the mistake. The Figure 1a and 1b are uploaded the files.
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Your calculations for the required capacitor in Figure (a) appear to be fine.

For Figure (b), what are the given component values and conditions? Are the voltage source, resistance, and inductance the same as before?
 
gneill said:
Your calculations for the required capacitor in Figure (a) appear to be fine.

For Figure (b), what are the given component values and conditions? Are the voltage source, resistance, and inductance the same as before?


Yes, They are same as before, and then step and step add the capacitor in the circuit and change the power factor from 1 to 0.8.
Thanks
 
qpzm77gg said:
Yes, They are same as before, and then step and step add the capacitor in the circuit and change the power factor from 1 to 0.8.
Thanks

Just to be clear, the components start out as Vs, R, L, and C from part (a) where the power factor is 1, and you wish to add another capacitor to bring the power factor down to 0.8?
 
gneill said:
Just to be clear, the components start out as Vs, R, L, and C from part (a) where the power factor is 1, and you wish to add another capacitor to bring the power factor down to 0.8?

The complete question is uploaded in the file.
Thanks a lot.
 

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Okay. Having the complete question helps.

For part (c)(iv), finding the capacitance, if you know the power factor and the resistance (the real part of the impedance), then you should be able to find the corresponding reactance. After all,
$$ pf = cos(\theta) = \frac{R}{\sqrt{R^2 + X^2}}$$
X will be positive or negative depending upon whether the current is said to be lagging or leading. You can then find XC from X = XL + XC.

I haven't been able to follow how you've approached parts (i) through (iii). I think if it were me I would have been tempted to do the parts in reverse order :smile:
 
QT = QL-Qc
Because all I are same in the in series circuit.
XT=XL - Xc
QT/I2=188.5-Xc
Xc = 1186.19Ω

another method,
|Z|=1662.82
|Z|2 = R2+Xc22
1662.822 = 1002+Xc22
Xc2=1659.8Ω
QT=I2(1659.8)
QT=0.0432VAR(cap)
Qc=QL-QT
Qc=0.0049+0.0432=0.0481VAR(cap)
Xc=0.0481/0.00512=1849.3Ω


There are also difference between the answers, why?
 
qpzm77gg said:
QT = QL-Qc
Because all I are same in the in series circuit.
XT=XL - Xc
QT/I2=188.5-Xc
Xc = 1186.19Ω
Is Q a positive or negative value if the pf is leading?
another method,
|Z|=1662.82
|Z|2 = R2+Xc22
1662.822 = 1002+Xc22
Xc2=1659.8Ω
QT=I2(1659.8)
QT=0.0432VAR(cap)
Qc=QL-QT
Qc=0.0049+0.0432=0.0481VAR(cap)
Xc=0.0481/0.00512=1849.3Ω


There are also difference between the answers, why?

I have suspicions about your value for the impedance. Since you know the real part R is 100 Ohms, you should be able to find the magnitude of the impedance given the power factor. You should also be able to find the magnitude of the reactive part.
 
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