Clausius2 said:
This thread is sort of propaganda against theoretician peOple, isn't it?.
not really No, I'm just wonder were all this potencial goes...
Do you mean you have to have something material in front of you in order to satisfy yourself and say ok all this work has been worthy?
no, not at all...
most of the work I do is totally conceptual, actually is not even Fisical(Antropological, social, ritual base and semiotical patterns) is all about A Vision and the avility to asociate in your mind parameters they are not soppose to fit togheter from the start.. and at this I'm sure I'm not the only one around here , at least i hope.
actually I date a "Theoretical matematics mayor" a few years back and I need to say she was one of the most interesting experience of My life,, yeah she was mostlly numbers , theories and equations but she also play a few musical instruments and compose "Duodecaconal" music (No idea how you spell that) and also Rock climp like the best of them.. and yes she was a geek and wear the t-shirt with the levels in the front and all that other typical stuff..
You should know there are thousands of scientists in the world who work on the theoretical field. They only have a pencil and paper in front. But they are generating things, are opening the frontiers of the human knowledge, and will never make an sculpture, will never build a plane, will never build a car neither a motorcycle, and maybe most of them don't know how to fry an egg.
Yes I know that...
A little sensitive are we...??
just because something is Mundane and simple does not make it any less important.
plus life is far more than Numbers and coheficients, to really produce (Idea, concepts, whatever) and something important you need to be in some kind of contact with the world around you.. (At least I firmlly believe that) Just look at guys like Otto hann and the rest of the people that generate the technology for the atomic fusion and how clualess they were about the ill intensions of certain humans to benefit from the Almost unlimited power.
This people is generating IDEAS, which are more important than any material stuff, merely because ideas have the POTENTIAL to become some day material stuff.
Most of modern engineering is precalculated and conceptualized with pencil and paper, long time before going to the factory and the media. Some of these ideas are rejected, some storaged, and some applied. Take a look at some scientific publication and read papers on theoretics, and ask yourself if the author is not satisfied with himself because he does not have the stuff right in front of him.
Man you really have a few sensive areas...
Yes I do all that stuff, hell i have clients In germany (when I can varelly speak Ingles) that i comunicate via drawings and diagrams all day long, I just like to come up with new ways of thinking about things, I do it all the time for fun, profit and also to inspire others and sometimes even challenge them, even then I still have the avility to apreciate a nice sunsets and hold the hands of the person i love,,
at the moment I have about 25 possible patentable items on "Pat-pend" status (don't have much money for all the laywer fees) but I still like to get my hands dirty and make stuff happend...
I was not trying to be Ofesive, judgamental or anything, I'm just one of this guys that grow up reading "Popular mecanics" and wondering how life will and If I will ever get to be one of the articles on the magazine...
the focus of the Topic was,,,
basically to find out if any of the people here make stuff like in the old days, Nothing more Nothing less after all is so much brain power around here will be great to see what they come up with,,,
call me Old school if you want,but for sure i will like to see who do better on a desolated island.
for sure I admire the conceptual and theoretycal work done by many but being a person that tries to be a little more "Renacense" i still like to learn how things work, to make diferent things, since i believe I learn more about the limitation and the possibilies of the materials, technics and production methods when I'm actually inmerse in the process...
actually many years ago, I perform a seminary at the mecanical Engeniering department of a fancy University (Universidad de los Andes in Bogota, Colombia, sur america) in "Human Power platforms" to be use on III world country enviroments (I have deggre in ergonomics and Biomecanics) and I'm sad to say I never found of cluster of people so Un-creative brainstiff close minded and unawere of the day to day needs of the comunity as that group, we were soppose to be talking about apropiated technologies, low tolerance production methods (No Not HIGH Tolerance since most of the parts will be made with very limited resourses) and this people were thinking about the Titanium extrussion methods that they read on the latest "American Science",,, Come On, the focus of the design group (Their tesis)
was to generate conceptual and practical "Human Power couplers..." so a lot of people and comunities can benefit of low cost, practical and realiable machines,,, yes I acept is not "Rocket science" to any extend, but is also a important part of the world we live in...
I don't know I just think reality also need to be a part of life and that you can not just live on a bublle and pretend everything is ideal and clean and that Antiseize will never get on your clothes because that kind of stuff does not affect well educated scientist.
Believe We are On the same boat, even if maybe is Sinking...
Again I was just asking something really pracmatic,,, DO you make S^^T and what do you with all this knowhow you posses,,,??
nothing more, nothing else