The Reason Behind Electromagnetic Attraction & Repulsion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of electromagnetic attraction and repulsion, specifically addressing why like charges repel and opposite charges attract. Participants explore theoretical underpinnings, fundamental concepts, and the implications of these interactions in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the behavior of charges is related to obtaining lower energy levels through movement.
  • Others propose that the existence of only positive and negative charges, rather than multiple types, is a fundamental aspect of the universe that may not have a definitive explanation.
  • A participant references a concept from quantum field theory suggesting that the electromagnetic interaction, described by vectors, leads to the repulsion of like charges and attraction of opposite charges.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that charge is a fundamental property that cannot be explained at a deeper level, and while charged particles may act to minimize energy, this does not clarify why such actions are necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the fundamental nature of charge and its implications, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific theoretical frameworks, such as quantum field theory and general relativity, which may not be universally accepted or understood among all participants. The discussion also touches on the limitations of explaining fundamental concepts without deeper foundational insights.

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Why do like electrical charges repel and opposite charges attract? Is it to do with obtaining lower energy levels through movement?
 
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The real question would be, why do charges exist, and why only positive and negative? Why don't we have charge A, charge B, and charge C? This is something rather hard to answer and can be questioned indefinitely. You'll probably need to ask a string theorist :P

I believe we came to the discovery that if we take "charged" objects and put them close together they would repel. Sometimes they would attract. Then at one point, a stroke of genius hit man, and voila we have the positive and negative charge that repel like charges and attract opposites. It has nothing to do with lowering of energy. It's just a fundamental concept of our universe. Another question to you: why do masses attract each other? Why do masses exert gravity?
 
Seatl said:
Why do like electrical charges repel and opposite charges attract? Is it to do with obtaining lower energy levels through movement?

In Zee, (QFT in a nutshell), there's a (slightly handwaving, but interesting) argument that explains that the deep origin of this effect is due to the electromagnetic interaction being described by vectors. This gives rise to like charges repelling (and hence opposite charges attracting). A 2-tensor field, such as gravity in GR, according to the same argument, turns out to be attractive for like "charges".
 
Charge is one of those fundamental concepts you can't really explain on a more fundamental level, it is simply a property that we observe some objects to possess. While charged particles will act to minimise their energy, this fact does not explain why a particular action ought to minimise its energy (I hope that makes sense :rolleyes:).

Claude.
 

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