Solving the Tug of War: Jackie vs. Sue

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In summary: Which of the statements are true based on the information you have?In summary, two girls play tug of war on a sunny day with Jackie initially standing at a distance d from the edge of the pond. Jackie, who weighs less than her opponent Sue, loses and is pulled into the pond. Jackie's mass is m, the tension in the rope is T, and the opposing force of friction between Jackie's feet and the ground is f. The time it took for Sue to win the competition is Delta t. Jackie can be treated as a particle with constant nonzero acceleration. Reasonable assumptions include negligible air resistance, horizontal ground near the pond, and an unstretchable rope. Based on the motion diagram, Jackie's vertical acceleration is directed
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On a bright sunny day, two girls play tug of war while standing on the opposite sides of a pond. Initially, each stands at a distance d from her edge of the pond. Jackie, who weighs less than her opponent Sue, loses the tug of war and is forced to take a dive in the pond. (Most often, the tug of war is won by the heaviest, not the strongest, team--you will find out why when you learn more about friction.)

Jackie's mass is m, the tension in the rope is T, and the opposing force of friction between Jackie's feet and the ground is f.

Find the time Delta t it took Sue to win the competition.


Things i figured out that are correct for sure:

--Jackie can be treated as a particle moving with constant nonzero acceleration.

--Which of the following assumptions or interpretations are reasonable?

1. Air resistance is substantial.
2. Air resistance is negligible.
3. The ground near the pond is slanted toward the water.
4. The ground near the pond is horizontal.
5. The mass of the rope equals Jackie's mass.
6. The mass of the rope is negligible.
7. The rope is unstretchable.

--Based on your motion diagram, which statements about Jackie's vertical acceleration \vec a_y must be true?

1. The magnitude of \vec a_y is greater than that of \vec a_x.
2. The magnitude of \vec a_y is zero.
3. The magnitude of \vec a_y is infinitely large.
4. \vec a_y is directed downward.
5. \vec a_y is directed upward.



Now the part i can't seem to grasp the concept, any help is appreciated.

Assuming that in the tug of war Jackie is being pulled to the right, which of the free-body diagrams shown is correct?

Note that the forces are not drawn to scale. Also, they are not labeled; however, they should be labeled on your own diagram.


look at attached photo for above question


Look at your pictorial representation. Which of the following are known quantities in this problem?

1. Jackie's initial horizontal position
2. The distance Jackie is pulled before reaching the edge of the pond
3. Jackie's horizontal acceleration
4. Jackie's initial horizontal velocity
5. Jackie's horizontal velocity at the moment she reaches the edge of the pond
6. The time it takes for Sue to pull Jackie into the pond


Thanks for your time and help.
 

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reignofdragons said:
On a bright sunny day, two girls play tug of war while standing on the opposite sides of a pond. Initially, each stands at a distance d from her edge of the pond. Jackie, who weighs less than her opponent Sue, loses the tug of war and is forced to take a dive in the pond. (Most often, the tug of war is won by the heaviest, not the strongest, team--you will find out why when you learn more about friction.)

Jackie's mass is m, the tension in the rope is T, and the opposing force of friction between Jackie's feet and the ground is f.

Find the time Delta t it took Sue to win the competition.


Things i figured out that are correct for sure:

--Jackie can be treated as a particle moving with constant nonzero acceleration.

--Which of the following assumptions or interpretations are reasonable?

1. Air resistance is substantial.
2. Air resistance is negligible.
3. The ground near the pond is slanted toward the water.
4. The ground near the pond is horizontal.
5. The mass of the rope equals Jackie's mass.
6. The mass of the rope is negligible.
7. The rope is unstretchable.
Presuming the bolded statements are the ones you deem "reasonable" then, yes, I agree with you.

--Based on your motion diagram, which statements about Jackie's vertical acceleration \vec a_y must be true?

1. The magnitude of \vec a_y is greater than that of \vec a_x.
2. The magnitude of \vec a_y is zero.
3. The magnitude of \vec a_y is infinitely large.
4. \vec a_y is directed downward.
5. \vec a_y is directed upward.
correct

Now the part i can't seem to grasp the concept, any help is appreciated.

Assuming that in the tug of war Jackie is being pulled to the right, which of the free-body diagrams shown is correct?

Note that the forces are not drawn to scale. Also, they are not labeled; however, they should be labeled on your own diagram.


look at attached photo for above question
The best way to do this is to first think about the forces acting on Jackie. Try and write down all the forces you think are acting on Jackie, and in which direction they are acting. Then you should be able to deduce which diagram is correct. It is important to note that the diagram is not to scale.

Look at your pictorial representation. Which of the following are known quantities in this problem?

1. Jackie's initial horizontal position
2. The distance Jackie is pulled before reaching the edge of the pond
3. Jackie's horizontal acceleration
4. Jackie's initial horizontal velocity
5. Jackie's horizontal velocity at the moment she reaches the edge of the pond
6. The time it takes for Sue to pull Jackie into the pond
Ok, what do you think here?
 
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Based on the given information, we can make the following conclusions:

1. The time it took Sue to win the competition can be calculated using the equation: T = m * a, where T is the tension in the rope, m is Jackie's mass, and a is her acceleration. We can rearrange the equation to solve for a: a = T/m. This means that the heavier the person, the greater the tension in the rope and the faster they will move.

2. Based on the given information, we can assume that air resistance is negligible and that the ground near the pond is horizontal.

3. Jackie's vertical acceleration must be directed downward and the magnitude of her vertical acceleration must be greater than zero, but not infinitely large.

4. The correct free-body diagram for this problem is the one with Jackie's initial horizontal position, her initial horizontal velocity, and the forces of tension and friction acting on her.

5. Known quantities in this problem include Jackie's initial horizontal position, the distance she is pulled before reaching the edge of the pond, her horizontal acceleration, her initial horizontal velocity, and the time it takes for Sue to pull her into the pond. Jackie's horizontal velocity at the moment she reaches the edge of the pond is not known, as it depends on the specific values of the other known quantities.
 

What is the "Tug of War" problem?

The "Tug of War" problem is a classic physics problem that involves two people, Jackie and Sue, pulling on opposite ends of a rope with equal force. The question is, what happens to the rope in this scenario?

What is the significance of solving this problem?

Solving the "Tug of War" problem helps us better understand the concept of balanced forces and how they affect the motion of objects. It also has real-world applications, such as in engineering and sports.

What is the general solution to the "Tug of War" problem?

The general solution is that the rope will not move because the forces applied by Jackie and Sue are equal and opposite, resulting in a state of equilibrium.

What factors can affect the outcome of the "Tug of War" problem?

The outcome can be affected by various factors, such as the strength and weight of Jackie and Sue, the length and elasticity of the rope, and the surface friction between the rope and the ground.

How can the "Tug of War" problem be applied in other scenarios?

The "Tug of War" problem can be applied in situations where two forces are acting in opposite directions and have equal magnitude. This can include situations in sports, engineering, and even in everyday life, such as pulling a stuck door or carrying a heavy object with a friend.

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