The Ultimate Performance of the Infinite Conundrum Rifle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the theoretical performance metrics of a fictional sniper rifle, the "Infinite Conundrum," specifically focusing on its muzzle speed, muzzle velocity, recoil, and effective range when using different types of ammunition, including a hypothetical variant. The conversation includes elements of theoretical physics and ballistics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the performance metrics of the Infinite Conundrum rifle, including muzzle speed, muzzle velocity, recoil, and effective range with both normal and +P+ ammunition.
  • Another participant introduces a theoretical variant of the rifle that could shoot a non-existent .338 Lapua Super Magnum round, asking for its potential velocity, muzzle energy, recoil, and range.
  • A different participant expresses concern about the validity of the questions due to the fictional nature of the rifle and the lack of sufficient information provided, suggesting that more details are needed for accurate calculations.
  • One participant provides specific figures for the .338 Lapua Magnum's muzzle velocity and energy based on existing data, noting that these figures were derived from a shorter barrel length and expressing uncertainty about how a longer barrel would affect performance.
  • Another participant acknowledges the theoretical nature of the questions but emphasizes the importance of grounding discussions in real-life examples to facilitate understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the appropriateness of discussing fictional firearms, with some advocating for real-world examples while others are open to theoretical discussions. There is no consensus on the performance metrics due to the speculative nature of the questions and the lack of complete information.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the absence of specific details about the ammunition's powder load, bullet shape, and how these factors influence the calculations for muzzle velocity and energy. The discussion also highlights the challenges of extrapolating performance from shorter barrel lengths to longer ones without empirical data.

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Say fired from this gun; it's a gun i made from Pimp My Gun, but it's not real. however I'm curious of what is it's performance; Muzzle Speed, Muzzle Velocity, Recoil, and Effective Range at 50" of barrel. using normal and +P+ ammunition

Infinite Conundrum
.338 lapua Magnum
x98 Telescopic Sight
7 round magazine
15 kg (loaded)
Bolt Action.

Infinite Conundrum is a bolt action sniper rifle with the action just two movements; forward and back. the barrel itself is 50" inch, the powder load of the round is +P+, the weight of the bullet is .300 grains and a bullet which is DU; Depleted Uranium.

what would be the maximum range?
the Muzzle Velocity
The Muzzle Energy
the Recoil.
of the two differing ammunition?

http://s1227.photobucket.com/albums...view&current=InfiniteConundrumArtilleryV4.jpg
 
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and what if it has another variant; it can shoot .338 Lapua Super magnum (DOES NOT EXIST), though it's a theoretical round, it is a .50 BMG necked down to accept .338 lapua magnum bullets, ackley improved and the case length is still 99mm.

what would be the new velocity, muzzle energy, recoil and range?
 
First, this isn't a forum for random questions about fake things. (Your 2nd thread on something like this) It would be greatly appreciated if you stuck to real examples for now. I only say this because of my next points.

Second, you haven't given us nearly enough info to answer these questions. We don't know how much powder is in the cartridge, the shape of the bullet, etc.

Now, we CAN help you figure this out on your own, if you would like. Do you know how to calculate the acceleration of an object using its mass and a force?
 
sorry, it's just answers are hard to come by at other stuffs, and they even TROLL. some guy answered at my question on my YahooAnswers something about being less faster than superman... what kind of answer is that?

anyways if you want more info... here;

.338 lapua magnum
114 gr
spitzer type bullet
200 grain Full Metal jacket bullet

the gun is 50 inch long.

.338 Lapua Super Magnum
300 gr
spitzer type bullet
barrel length of the gun is 50 inch.
 
Alright. So, the .338 Lupua Magnum generates 3,340 Feet per second muzzle velocity using a 200 grain bullet. (Per the Ballistic Performance on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Lapua_Magnum)

That equates to 6,734 Joules of energy. (Also right there next to the muzzle velocity)

For the 300 grain its about 2,750 ft/s and 6,810 J. (Same place as before)

Both of those velocities were using a 26 in barrel, and I don't know how to figure out what a 50 in barrel would produce.

Considering that this cartridge was used at a range of 2,475 m to kill someone, albeit with a low drag bullet, that should be a good estimate on its max range at the above specs. (assuming that the extra barrel length provided a decent boost to velocity of the bullet)

I can't give you anything beyond that, sorry.
 
oh... thanks anyways... but seriously thanks...

oh and sorry if my questions is theoretical, and i mean at first look; way off reality..
 
It's not they are theoretical, it's that it's easier to use a real life example of something that does exist first and go from there. This applies to the forum as a general principle. A good example is your post about a supernova. There's no problem asking questions about it, but it REALLY throws people off when you start asking "what if" questions when you don't understand the basics. This specific post isn't really too bad, it's just that I came directly from your other post over to this one. I'm sorry I couldn't help you further.
 

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