Theoretical and Actual Acceleration for an Atwood Machine

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an Atwood machine experiment, focusing on calculating theoretical and actual acceleration as well as tension in the system. The original poster presents two trials with different mass configurations and seeks clarification on the relationship between theoretical and actual acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate acceleration and tension using provided formulas but questions whether the theoretical and actual accelerations should match. Participants discuss the importance of unit conversion from grams to kilograms for accurate calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations and providing guidance on unit conversion. There is a recognition of the need to ensure proper units are used, particularly for tension calculations, while the original poster reflects on previously gathered data from class.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the assignment may be part of a hands-on lab, implying that actual measurements will be taken to compare against theoretical values. There is an emphasis on the importance of unit consistency in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Include free body diagrams and equations solved independently for acceleration and tension. Note: a and T are to be expressed in terms of m1, m2, and g only.
Trial 1:Mass1= 55g and Mass2= 60g
Trial 2:Mass1= 55g and Mass2= 65g
We are doing 2 trials but i need help with the first one. I'm not sure how to figure out the acceleration and theoretical acceleration, should they be coming out the same?

Homework Equations



A=(m2-m1/m1+m2)g
Ath=g(m2-m1/m1+m2)
T=(2m1m2/m1+m2)g

The Attempt at a Solution



Trial 1: A=((60-55)/(60+55))*9.8 = (5/115)*9.8 = 0.426m/s/s
Ath=9.8*((60-55)/(60+55)) = 9.8*(5/115) = 0.4260m/s/s
T=(2*55*60/55+60)9.8 = (6600/115)*9.8 = 562.43N
 
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Hi Pandaluvv2, welcome to Physics Forums.

Is this assignment accompanying a hands-on lab? If so, the "actual acceleration" would be the value you measure during the experiment, which would subsequently be compared to the theoretical value that you calculate.

The formulas that you've arrived at appear to be okay but you need to be careful with the units. Your masses are given in grams but should be converted to kilograms for use in the tension formula. The scaling factors happen to cancel out in the acceleration formula so your result turns out to be correct, but you should be using kilograms there too.
 
Okay, that makes sense, I forgot we had found acceleration during class, which would have saved me a bunch of time. The only thing I should change is my mass to kilograms then right? So I can use it for the tension?
 
Pandaluvv2 said:
Okay, that makes sense, I forgot we had found acceleration during class, which would have saved me a bunch of time. The only thing I should change is my mass to kilograms then right? So I can use it for the tension?

Yup. Work in kilograms.
 
Okay, thank you very much for the help!
 

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