Thermal Conduction Homework: Find Rod's Conductivity

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The problem involves a rod with insulated sides, one end in boiling water and the other in a water/ice mixture, with the goal of determining the rod's thermal conductivity based on the rate of ice melting.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the heat conduction equation and the conversion of units, particularly focusing on the heat of fusion and the mass of ice melted.

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Some participants have provided guidance on identifying potential errors in calculations, particularly regarding unit conversions and the correct application of the heat of fusion. There is an ongoing exploration of the discrepancies between calculated results and the answer key.

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Homework Statement


A rod, with sides insulated to prevent heat loss, has one end immersed in boiling water at 100C and the other end immersed in a water/ice mixture at 0C. The rod has uniform cross-sectional area of 4.04 cm^2 and length 91cm. Under steady state conditions, heat conducted by the rod melts the ice at a rate of 1.0g every 34 seconds. What is the thermal conductivity of the rod?


Homework Equations


H=dQ/dt=k*Area(TempChange)(1/length)
Heat of Fusion of water is 3.34*10^5 J/kg


The Attempt at a Solution


(3.34*10^5*91)/(34seconds*100C*4.04cm^2) = 2200

My answer key says 220 W/m*K, I've tried converting 91cm to .91m and 4.04cm^2 to .000404m^2 and I get the same 2200 answer. I think I'm making a conversion error but I'm not sure, please advice, thank you.
 
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have you realized that it is 1x10^-3 kg melted in 34secs
 
Your work is off by a factor of 1000 because you forgot to multiply the heat of fusion of water (J/kg) by the rate at which mass is melting (0.001 kg). Only 334 J of heat is being transferred in 34 sec, NOT 334,000 J.
 
hmm I believe I follow what you are saying. I recalculated with 334J and my answer comes to 2.20 but that's still not what the answer key says. Am I just dense or is maybe the key incorrect?
 
wait, maybe the 2.20 is in W/cm*K and the 220 on the key is W/m*K? ...nevermind, that would be backwards
 
I don't know what to tell you, because it's just arithmetic at this point. You are messing it up somewhere and just need to be meticulous and get it right.
 
Joshb60796 said:

Homework Statement


A rod, with sides insulated to prevent heat loss, has one end immersed in boiling water at 100C and the other end immersed in a water/ice mixture at 0C. The rod has uniform cross-sectional area of 4.04 cm^2 and length 91cm. Under steady state conditions, heat conducted by the rod melts the ice at a rate of 1.0g every 34 seconds. What is the thermal conductivity of the rod?


Homework Equations


H=dQ/dt=k*Area(TempChange)(1/length)
Heat of Fusion of water is 3.34*10^5 J/kg


The Attempt at a Solution


(3.34*10^5*91)/(34seconds*100C*4.04cm^2) = 2200

My answer key says 220 W/m*K, I've tried converting 91cm to .91m and 4.04cm^2 to .000404m^2 and I get the same 2200 answer. I think I'm making a conversion error but I'm not sure, please advice, thank you.
(334*0.91)/(34seconds*100C*.000404) = 221
 
Thank you Chester, I'd been messing with this over and over and apparently it's like trying to grammar check your own novel, I never tried both converting to meters, and fixing my gram and kilogram mistake. Thank you so much :) I don't know how I missed it now.
 

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