Thermal Expansion of lead rod question

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The problem involves the thermal expansion of a lead rod and a glass rod, both initially at the same length at 21.0° C. The lead rod is heated to 50.0° C, and the question is to determine the temperature to which the glass rod must be heated for both rods to again reach the same length.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the coefficients of thermal expansion for lead and glass, with one participant attempting to apply the formula for linear expansion. Questions arise regarding the appropriate value for the coefficient of expansion for the glass rod.

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Some participants have provided insights into the coefficients of thermal expansion and have noted discrepancies in the values used. There is acknowledgment of the need for clarification regarding the type of glass and its thermal properties, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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There is mention of specific values for the thermal expansion coefficients, with one participant realizing that the coefficient for Pyrex glass may not be suitable for their calculations. The discussion reflects on the implications of using different types of glass in the context of thermal expansion.

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A lead rod and a common glass rod both have the same length when at 21.0° C. The lead rod is heated to 50.0° C. To what temperature must the glass rod be heated so that they are again at the same length?

I did this:

L = a*L0*T
a (thermal expansion) of lead = (29e-6)
a (thermal expansion) of glass pyrex = (3.25e-6)

[a(50-21)]lead = [a(Tf-21)]glass
Tf = 280° C.
 
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Do you happen to know what temperature they're looking for?

Although it doesn't make a difference to the solution to this problem, for future reference you might take note that the length of the material that has undergone a temperature change should be

L_{new} = L_{old} (1 + \alpha \Delta T)

This is because the coefficient of expansion is based upon

\frac{\Delta L}{L} = \alpha \Delta T
 
Hey thanks for the reply, I actually got it worked out.

They wanted a larger value for alpha of glass than I had.

I thought that pyrex glass would be fine to use as alpha for a glass rod, guess not. They wanted 9x10^-6.

But other than that my procedure is good :)
 
Intrusionv2 said:
Hey thanks for the reply, I actually got it worked out.

They wanted a larger value for alpha of glass than I had.

I thought that pyrex glass would be fine to use as alpha for a glass rod, guess not. They wanted 9x10^-6.

But other than that my procedure is good :)

Ah yes. It might be of interest to note that Pyrex glass was developed to address thermal expansion issues -- it was designed to have a lower thermal expansion coefficient than "ordinary" glass. It also meant fewer breakages due to thermal stress in the lab as well as the kitchen!
 
gneill said:
Ah yes. It might be of interest to note that Pyrex glass was developed to address thermal expansion issues -- it was designed to have a lower thermal expansion coefficient than "ordinary" glass. It also meant fewer breakages due to thermal stress in the lab as well as the kitchen!

Makes sense, good to know!
 

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