Thermal Expansion Problem Involving a Brass Ring

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The discussion revolves around a thermal expansion problem involving a brass ring and a steel rod, focusing on the relationship between their diameters and the temperature change required to achieve a specific fit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the thermal expansion formula ΔL = LαΔT, with attempts to equate the changes in diameter of the brass ring and steel rod. Questions arise regarding the coefficients used in calculations and the resulting temperature change.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively sharing their calculations and questioning the coefficients used, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the correct temperature change, as differing results are noted.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a specific constraint regarding the hole being 50 μm too small, which is central to the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


ΔL = LαΔT

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was to set the diameter of the inside of the brass ring + the change in diameter of the brass ring equal to the diameter of the steel rod + change in the diameter of the steel rod. So,

Lbrass + ΔLbrass = Lsteel + ΔLsteel

Where L is the diameter

Then I used ΔL = LαΔT to solve both ΔL's

Lbrass + LbrassαbrassΔT = Lsteel + LsteelαsteelΔT

Then I solved for ΔT and got

(Lbrass - Lsteel) / (Lsteelαsteel - Lbrassαbrass) = ΔT

Then since it states that the hole is 50 μM too small I did

(50 μm) / (Lsteelαsteel - Lbrassαbrass) = ΔT

I get a very small answer for ΔT but the answer says ΔT should be about 313 °C



 

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BrainMan said:
I get a very small answer for ΔT
I get about 370 from your equation (what coefficients are you using?). Please post your detailed calculation.
 
haruspex said:
I get about 370 from your equation (what coefficients are you using?). Please post your detailed calculation.

I did

(50 x 10^-9) / ( 0.020 * 1.1 x10^-5 - 0.020*1.9 x10^-5)
 
BrainMan said:
50 x 10^-9
μm.
 
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haruspex said:
μm.

I see. Thanks
 

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